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Vampire_Izumi #21 Posted 20 April 2020 - 01:22 AM

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View PostFunktastic Ed, on 20 April 2020 - 09:58 AM, said:

 

I will also make a video of your so called overmatch mechanics, i already stated in other threads that this is all a joke and works randomly.

 

When i watched my Absolution to see its armor, i noticed the roof armor, and that's one of the first things i tried when i faced this beast, and it didn't overmatch at all.

So you are the one who thinks he knows but just Don't understand how RNG screws anything in this blooody game.

 

Absolution is OP, it has 950 sp while most tier VI heavies are around 850sp and way less protected, its gun deals 157mm of average penetration while most counterparts tier for tier are around 130mm average pen.

 

 

actually most tier 6 heavies have 950 HP, also that pen is false, most tier 6 tanks have 140-175mm of pen. its the American mediums that have low pen.

german mediums with their top guns get 150mms of pen, german heavies get 145mms of pen. its on par with other german tanks.

 

also, the gun it gets is from a tier 5 heavy. called the  VK 30.01 (H)

 

M6 gets 160 pen and does 240 damage with a RoF on par/ better than a big chunk of tier 8 mediums which is 7.89.

T-150 gets 167mms of pen, 5.88 RoF  and 300 damage a shot.

KV-85 gets 175mms of pen and does 390 damage with 3.96 RoF with the 122 and it gets, 170mms of pen, 7.89 RoF and 250 damage a shot with the 100mm (better than a huge chunk of tier 8 mediums)


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Funktastic Ed #22 Posted 20 April 2020 - 01:37 AM

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View PostVampire_Izumi, on 20 April 2020 - 01:18 AM, said:

my question is, why do you hate thew absolution, but are fine with tanks like the M4A3E2 that have 0 frontal weakspots.

Jumbo is tier VII.

And Killing an absolution at long range with the Tiger does not proove anything.

I have a problem with absolution quite the same as i have with Panzer IV/V these are Seal Clubbing machines, stat pusher for thoses who want an easy life.

That's my problem.

Again, Absolution has almost no weak spots, 950sp points while most tier VI heavies have 850sp, it deals 157mm average pen and can shoot almost 15 rounds per minutes.

Sop, people can just rush at your face, spot you and your whole team, auto aim at any targets because Nothing at tier VI can deal with that kind of penetration rate.


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View PostFunktastic Ed, on 20 April 2020 - 10:37 AM, said:

Jumbo is tier VII.

I have a problem with absolution quite the same as i have with Panzer IV/V these are Seal Clubbing machines, stat pusher for thoses who want an easy life.

That's my problem.

Again, Absolution has almost no weak spots, 950sp points while most tier VI heavies have 850sp, it deals 157mm average pen and can shoot almost 15 rounds per minutes.

Sop, people can just rush at your face, spot you and your whole team, auto aim at any targets because Nothing at tier VI can deal with that kind of penetration rate.

 

no, the Jumbo is a tier 6. it was even in that match in that vid i put up

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Vampire_Izumi #24 Posted 20 April 2020 - 01:39 AM

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View PostFunktastic Ed, on 20 April 2020 - 10:37 AM, said:

Jumbo is tier VII.

And Killing an absolution at long range with the Tiger does not proove anything.

I have a problem with absolution quite the same as i have with Panzer IV/V these are Seal Clubbing machines, stat pusher for thoses who want an easy life.

That's my problem.

Again, Absolution has almost no weak spots, 950sp points while most tier VI heavies have 850sp, it deals 157mm average pen and can shoot almost 15 rounds per minutes.

Sop, people can just rush at your face, spot you and your whole team, auto aim at any targets because Nothing at tier VI can deal with that kind of penetration rate.

 

 

literally look at all the tier 6 heavies and most of them actually have better guns than the Absolution. the absolution's gun is from a tier 5 heavy tank FYI.

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M6 gets 160 pen and does 240 damage with a RoF on par/ better than a big chunk of tier 8 mediums which is 7.89.

T-150 gets 167mms of pen, 5.88 RoF  and 300 damage a shot.

KV-85 gets 175mms of pen and does 390 damage with 3.96 RoF with the 122 and it gets, 170mms of pen, 7.89 RoF and 250 damage a shot with the 100mm (better than a huge chunk of tier 8 mediums)"

 

also, the average HP for tier 6 heavies IS 950. there are almost none that are below 900. unlesss your looking at UNUPGRADED tanks.

 

funny thing, ARL  gets a gun that has a 6 RoF, 212 base pen, and 240 damage. or it can get a gun that has a 5.61 RoF, 165 base pen, 300 damage with its base ammo and 330 with it's premium ammo.

 

actually almost every tank i see at tier 6 gets 145-175 pen on average.


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Vampire_Izumi #25 Posted 20 April 2020 - 01:51 AM

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Funktastic Ed #26 Posted 20 April 2020 - 01:56 AM

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View PostVampire_Izumi, on 20 April 2020 - 01:39 AM, said:

 

 

literally look at all the tier 6 heavies and most of them actually have better guns than the Absolution. the absolution's gun is from a tier 5 heavy tank FYI.

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M6 gets 160 pen and does 240 damage with a RoF on par/ better than a big chunk of tier 8 mediums which is 7.89.

T-150 gets 167mms of pen, 5.88 RoF  and 300 damage a shot.

KV-85 gets 175mms of pen and does 390 damage with 3.96 RoF with the 122 and it gets, 170mms of pen, 7.89 RoF and 250 damage a shot with the 100mm (better than a huge chunk of tier 8 mediums)"

 

also, the average HP for tier 6 heavies IS 950. there are almost none that are below 900. unlesss your looking at UNUPGRADED tanks.

 

Churchill VII is 870sp

ARL 44 is 720sp

M4A3E2 is 730sp

VK36.1H is 850sp

T-150 is 830sp

KV-2 is 810sp

KV-85 is 820sp

M6 is 850sp

 

Absolution 's got some of the best penetration rate for tier VI AND also one of the best rate of fire, and 950sp same as a japanese O-I super heavy tank who only can shoot 5x per minute, the only other tanks that shares 950sp are tier VI tigers (131, citadels etc) but they Don't pen 157mm and they dont shoot 15x per minute.

 

This means that tier for tier in a duel Absolution can litterally trade damage with anyone and win.

Damage trading should never be a suitable strategy.


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btw T-34-85M

144 base pen, 180 damage, 11.54 RoF

Citadel Tiger:

145 base pen, 220 damage, 8.57 RoF.


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A few tiny weak spots that even if you have the time and opportunity to aim in aim mode, the RNG usually plays to the opponents advantage.

If you are in a light tank and you get lucky enough to circle an Absolution, you are of course using auto lock, you can't stop to aim, that is your death.  I experienced this many times this weekend plating the Snakebite in the ranked battles. I had to pray that I was reloaded when I got to the back of the Absolution, otherwise everything bounced on sides and front, with the premium rounds. But this is also a weakness of the Snakebites ammo and gun (see my Snakebite thread, British Tanks Discussion)

The Absolution is basically the new Panzer V/IV, before they nerfed it. I hardly play the V/IV anymore because they nerf batted its mobility and spaced armor so hard. Its just not fun to play like it was years ago.

Everyone in the Absolution will enjoy how OP it is, and the opponents will hate it and get frustrated going up against it....plain and simple.

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View PostFunktastic Ed, on 20 April 2020 - 10:56 AM, said:

 

Churchill VII is 870sp

ARL 44 is 720sp

M4A3E2 is 730sp MEDIUM

VK36.1H is 850sp

T-150 is 830sp

KV-2 is 810sp

KV-85 is 820sp 

M6 is 850sp

 

Absolution 's got some of the best penetration rate for tier VI AND also one of the best rate of fire, and 950sp same as a japanese O-I super heavy tank who only can shoot 5x per minute, the only other tanks that shares 950sp are tier VI tigers (131, citadels etc) but they Don't pen 157mm and they dont shoot 15x per minute.

 

This means that tier for tier in a duel Absolution can litterally trade damage with anyone and win.

FYI a lot of the tanks on that list are STOCK, Turret upgrades increase HP.

 

tier 6 Tigers: 950

Tog II: 1,400

British Bulldog: 960  (is a Churchill VII)

Reach 930

O-I 950

KV-85 870

ARL 44 820

VK 36.01 (H) 950

T-150 880

KV-2 860

M6 950

 

also in 1 of the vids i posted, i showed i was out trading Absolutions actually in 2 videos

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omegaMAXIMUS080 #30 Posted 20 April 2020 - 02:10 AM

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The video you posted shows how easy the Absolution killed and out survived your Citadel Tiger. Was that your point?

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View PostomegaMAXIMUS080, on 20 April 2020 - 11:10 AM, said:

The video you posted shows how easy the Absolution killed and out survived your Citadel Tiger. Was that your point?

 

if you look closer if that Sturm did not shoot me i would of killed him, also what about the second vid?

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also, absolutions pen is actually on the low end for tier 6 heavy tanks.

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omegaMAXIMUS080 #33 Posted 20 April 2020 - 02:19 AM

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Well I tried out my tier 6 Tiger 217 this weekend in the ranked battles and it only got decimated by the Absolutions and all the T-34 variants being played.

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so you guys are upset that the absolution's weakspots are "too small" (lower plate is big and thin, side is easily penned, turret roof is easily penned and so is the gun mantlet) yet are fine with the M4A3E2 that has 0 weakspots in the front....

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Absolution penetration is also increased by its high velocity (hit scan) shells ;-)

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well, you guys can think what you want, ive showed several videos of me easily killing absolutions. i even showed stats of heavies with better guns and showed several Heavies with the same HP. i almost never play my absolution. so if it gets nerfed oh well. but wow if you guys have that much of a issue with it. 

 

maybe its you  and not the tank.

 

but i am done with arguing with a wall. that also, through this chat has proven they are a liar (claiming that the M4A3E2 is tier 7 then using it as a filler for tier 6 heavy tanks and then using Stock tanks HP VS a fully upgraded tank)


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Izumi....are you a console or PC player?

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View PostomegaMAXIMUS080, on 20 April 2020 - 11:33 AM, said:

Izumi....are you a console or PC player?

 

why does it matter?

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Because WOT Console is a different game than the PC version. This is why the tank discussion is separate. On Console, a tanks HP does not increase with package upgrades, and the tank specs are sometimes very different between the console and PC versions.

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i am a Console player, i also play most classes. 29,353 battles. i have marked a lot of tanks for fun, like the Champion/M10 3 marked, British Bulldog 3 marked, T32-A proto 3 marked, Captured KV-1 3 marked, Churchill III 3 marked and a lot of 2 marks.

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