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AleTieCan05 #21 Posted 29 June 2020 - 01:14 PM

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MaxChaos24 #22 Posted 29 June 2020 - 01:21 PM

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View PostLoggins, on 29 June 2020 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

What’s the Y axis in Chart 4?

 

That is the Win Rate of the tank (Y) compared to the win rate of the player using it (X). 

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View PostLoggins, on 29 June 2020 - 11:45 AM, said:

It appears that charts 3 and 4 don’t add up. In chart 3 it’s shows players with a win rate of 33-52% performing poorly in the 430U as compared to the player base whereas players with 53-70% win rate performing better in the 430U than average and thus skewing the 430U’s win rate to the 53% where it stands. Chart 4 doesn’t reflect this??? 
 

Hey Jeff, how about let’s talk about Artillery? I’m fired of being nuked by a SPG that I can’t see nor return fire. 

 

Just wait for Christmass. You have a special game with a green tank and a red arty (you choose one). It's the perfect game you dream of.

You see the arty and can kill it without any effort. And you don't have any annoying tank like a T110E4 or a FV4005 or ... no risk, no threat, no suspense and as a result, no ... fun ?



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As we say in France : "Tout ça pour ça ?"

Only TDs and arty in the crosshairs (we can say that in english ?).



Loggins #25 Posted 29 June 2020 - 01:48 PM

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View PostMaxChaos24, on 29 June 2020 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

That is the Win Rate of the tank (Y) compared to the win rate of the player using it (X). 

 

I really do appreciate you taking the time and effort to answer my questions!!

 

I would like to make a couple of suggestions.

1. In terms of balancing, I think most veteran players would prefer to see the poorest performing/least played tanks addressed more so than seeing tanks nerfed.

2. Matchmaking isn’t the best nor is it very fair at times. Hopefully cross play will help get better match making balance.

 

3. Artillery. If a deathstar can no longer one shot a tank neither should SPG’s. Platoons of SPG should never be allowed, actually limit matches to no more than one SPG per team.
 

4. Maps! Long time veteran players  are in desperate need of  new maps. An occasional new tank is new but any new tank gets stale player the same old maps. Please rotate maps in and out of the game. As a mater of fact. I would much rather have you guys update and tweak existing maps than balance tanks. Just saying I see greater priorities.

 

5. Lastly , for the love of god, please address the E50. It is in need of some TLC. 



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View Postimo10vl10, on 29 June 2020 - 01:41 PM, said:

 

Just wait for Christmass. You have a special game with a green tank and a red arty (you choose one). It's the perfect game you dream of.

You see the arty and can kill it without any effort. And you don't have any annoying tank like a T110E4 or a FV4005 or ... no risk, no threat, no suspense and as a result, no ... fun ?

 

Sorry but the Christmas special stopped being fun 4 years ago. 

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View PostLoggins, on 29 June 2020 - 04:58 PM, said:

 

Sorry but the Christmas special stopped being fun 4 years ago. 

 

So Green tank seem to be performing too good so instead of buffing the Red useless tank we nerfing the Green one :) 

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View PostKilledByPing, on 29 June 2020 - 02:47 PM, said:

 

So Green tank seem to be performing too good so instead of buffing the Red useless tank we nerfing the Green one :) 

 

Sadly this game is full of trolls. I guess it’s simply the times we live in.

 

If you look at the above comments, my preference would be to buff less played/underperforming tanks, limit the number of artillery and work on the maps. And yes, I’m not that interested in the Christmas mode, just find it a little boring. 



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View PostSPUK4U, on 29 June 2020 - 12:20 PM, said:

 

Yes, how about tier X artillery? I'm tired of long reload time and missing those few shots that I have time to take before battle ends or my arty gets killed by yolo lights.

 

I was thinking the same thing actually. Higher tier Arty needs the load times lowered by a third to half and increase their armor to fight off the swarming gnats, I meant lights. 

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View Postpsmobius1, on 29 June 2020 - 10:48 AM, said:

 

I was thinking the same thing actually. Higher tier Arty needs the load times lowered by a third to half and increase their armor to fight off the swarming gnats, I meant lights. 

That would be a cool buff to the GW E100. They should give it the same hull armor as the E100 but keep the superstructure weak. Just something to make it interesting. Don't make it reload faster. The problem with arty is that it is underpowered when you play it and overpowered when you fight against it. It needs a total rework rather than a buff or nerf. If you buff it, the tank players get mad. but if you nerf it, the arty players get mad. They can't win unless they do a total arty rework. But for the time being, making the GW E100 a little more unique would be a good change that I don't think the tank players would hate because it isn't a buff to the gun.



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Still waiting on an Object. 430 II buff. Or even cut a tier 10 tank down a tier so we don't have to grind tier 9 endlessly. 


If I only had a Baneblade....

 

 

 


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View PostLoggins, on 29 June 2020 - 05:58 PM, said:

 

Sadly this game is full of trolls. I guess it’s simply the times we live in.

 

If you look at the above comments, my preference would be to buff less played/underperforming tanks, limit the number of artillery and work on the maps. And yes, I’m not that interested in the Christmas mode, just find it a little boring. 

 

I've no idia what kind of trolling you talking about and what it have to do with my comment. I actually think the same way. Less played tanks suppose to be buffed instead of OK tanks like 430U, E50 and various other be nerfed for no valid reason and Arty be capped or better off completely removed.

What i tryed to say is that WGCB tend to keep nerfing something that should never be nerfed in the first place and keep ignoring a HUGE TUMORS which make people stop playing this game such as Arty, Yolo Light tank platoons (we areally, really, really ,really do NOT need more then 2 light tanks per team and there NEVER should be an option to have more then 1 light tank or arty per platoon), overnerfned new tanks which nobody plays and stupid "Win rate Balancer" which should never be a part of multiplayer game in the first place.






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