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Why does the diamondback outclass the tier 8 Chinese td and the AT-15?


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pilotguy79 #21 Posted 01 July 2020 - 08:24 AM

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View Postscwirpeo, on 01 July 2020 - 07:57 AM, said:

 

They have before. Specifically with the pref tanks. Ironic considering they added the sta-2.

 

Also the reason you don't want them to be better is power creep and pay to win. Both rapid methods to killing a game.

Totally agree. Prem tanks were supposed to be kinda in the middle but with silver and xp boosts to fund the tech tree line. Now it’s becoming pointless to do a tech tree. You have great premiums even at tier 10. So why even grind. Get a couple prem tanks and you are off to the races.

 

I barely grind tanks any more . I used to play a premium then tt and back and forth. Now I mainly play premiums and collect the free cap and use that.



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View Postpilotguy79, on 01 July 2020 - 01:24 AM, said:

Totally agree. Prem tanks were supposed to be kinda in the middle but with silver and xp boosts to fund the tech tree line. Now it’s becoming pointless to do a tech tree. You have great premiums even at tier 10. So why even grind. Get a couple prem tanks and you are off to the races.

 

I barely grind tanks any more . I used to play a premium then tt and back and forth. Now I mainly play premiums and collect the free cap and use that.

 

Indeed. I have no problem with them being on par with the TT. No one wants a bad tank. It's just when they make the TT a redundant version of a premium it becomes bad.


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View PostElite Corsair, on 30 June 2020 - 10:23 PM, said:

These are 2 tech tree tanks that perform the same basic role yet the diamondback clearly outperforms them. Can some explain why?

Because spreadsheet said that inaccurate chinese joke of TD on heavy chassis and slow british artillery magnet easily flanked by anything was turning so fast it had to be nerfed, was so gooood.. or something

 


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View PostGamerPaws, on 01 July 2020 - 03:35 AM, said:

Because spreadsheet said that inaccurate chinese joke of TD on heavy chassis and slow british artillery magnet easily flanked by anything was turning so fast it had to be nerfed, was so gooood.. or something

 

 

Do you know they nerfed the AT-15 hull traverse too right?


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mr_rainmaker777 #25 Posted 01 July 2020 - 02:21 PM

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are we talking about the same tank? my diamondback blocks S*** nada zero nothing.... its arty snacks....:teethhappy:

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View PostElite Corsair, on 30 June 2020 - 02:42 PM, said:

 

so that means the aforementioned tds should get a buff

 

Yeah, no. Not the way wargaming does things.

 

Wargaming moves forward to keep people in play ... But everything that is introduced is better than stuff before otherwise people just complain bitterly and it's their expectations. 

 

But in doing this wargaming does not put in the time or effort to "balance" the game" because of reasons ... just keep on pushing forward. 

 

It is what it is.



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Because the Diamondback is the assault tank the Tortoise and all the other AT series tanks were supposed to be since it doesn’t have a “shoot me here!” hat that makes its armor worthless. 

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View Postradonism, on 30 June 2020 - 10:52 PM, said:

(I'm crying in tortoise armor layout)

 

Up a tier and down a tier, all at the same time. 

 

Make the Tortoise the tier 8 premium with the 32pdr and put the diamondback as the tier 9 with the 120mm. 


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View Postpilotguy79, on 01 July 2020 - 08:37 AM, said:

View PostBibo1GerUk, on 30 June 2020 - 11:25 PM, said:

Because it's a Premium?

I can remember wg saying that prem tanks should not be better than there TT counterparts 

 

Yeah, but there's a difference between stating something years ago and then finding out that people would rather buy better Premium tanks. Just make one or two stats worse than the Tech Tree counterpart and you can still say "It's not OP" even though everyone knows for 99% of the time it's simply not true.

Tbh, we only got ourselves to blame for watching all the hype vids, buying them and playing the game with these.


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Because this game has Pay 2 Win aspects. The fact that a tier 8 premium is flat out better than its tech tree counterparts is complete pay 2 win.

 

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They’re all pretty painful to play




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