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Poll: List of Player Desires (170 members have cast votes)

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+1/-1 Permanently Added

  1. Yes (121 votes [71.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.18%

  2. No (49 votes [28.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.82%

Platoons

  1. 3 Player (100 votes [58.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.82%

  2. 4 Player (17 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. 5 Player (53 votes [31.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.18%

Change Premium Rounds

  1. Gold Only (8 votes [4.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.71%

  2. Silver or Gold (146 votes [85.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 85.88%

  3. Remove Premium Rounds (16 votes [9.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.41%

Matchmaker

  1. Keep as is (88 votes [51.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 51.76%

  2. Remove boost/nerf mechanic (34 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  3. Random w/ tier weight only (48 votes [28.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.24%

Crossplay

  1. Keep as is (114 votes [67.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 67.06%

  2. Remove PS boost (16 votes [9.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.41%

  3. Fix lag issue between consoles (40 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

Events & Seasons

  1. Keep as is (76 votes [44.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.71%

  2. Let player base vote on premise (94 votes [55.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.29%

Power Creep on Older Tanks

  1. Keep as is (26 votes [15.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.29%

  2. Upgrade Older Tanks (144 votes [84.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.71%

  3. Remove Older Tanks (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

True Vision

  1. Make it permanent. It’s the best. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Never, Ever put this in the game again! Grrrr! (2 votes [100.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 100.00%

  3. I don’t care because I only play lights and mediums! Keener Neener! (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

Hot Wheels

  1. Oooooo I luv it Daddy! So much like my teddy! (1 vote [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. Ummm, I’m an adult and this event is stupid. (1 vote [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

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IIBSWAT-x #81 Posted 17 September 2020 - 10:52 AM

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View PostHeXXeN-x, on 16 September 2020 - 10:18 PM, said:


Congrats on proving my point. Remember when you “HAVE TO POINT OUT EXCEPTIONS, YOU HAVE PROVEN THE RULE”. And yes, I have also had good games once in a while being low tier. Even a blind and deaf squirrel finds a nut once in a while.


Going head to head with higher tiers is inevitable. Usually you end up head to head with multiple opponents during every game. 

You need to calm down, your mistake is assuming that your experience of wot is the same as mine, it's not. You like to think of yourself as a blind and deaf squirrel when bottom tier, I do not. You seem to have difficulty seeing that other people are allowed to have a different opinion to you, I do not.

 

View PostM4ntiX-x, on 16 September 2020 - 10:21 PM, said:

 

Why would you assume this is an exception? Many of us do well when bottom tier ALL THE TIME. It's just a matter of properly adjusting to the battle conditions. You need to consider the tank you're driving, the map you're on, enemy line-up, etc. It's a skill that can be acquired over time. Of course, it's much easier to cry -2 matchmaking isn't fair.

Agree.



FabulousBlock-x #82 Posted 17 September 2020 - 11:42 AM

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The point is +-1 balances the mm. Majority agree with that. Lets go +-3 next time and see how many uninstall. The +-2 argument is absurd.The lower that number is the more balanced the game. Thats numbers folks. They're not subjective and they dont lie. If you are for +-2 you are not for more balanced mm. You just got a taste of it this weekend.(Theres a reason ranked battles are in the same tier. Thats as balanced as it gets.This is elementary). These are all the numbers you need but they are overlooked and ignored.

John Arrowsmith-x #83 Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:14 PM

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View PostFabulousBlock-x, on 17 September 2020 - 11:42 AM, said:

The point is +-1 balances the mm. Majority agree with that. Lets go +-3 next time and see how many uninstall. The +-2 argument is absurd.The lower that number is the more balanced the game. Thats numbers folks. They're not subjective and they dont lie. If you are for +-2 you are not for more balanced mm. You just got a taste of it this weekend.(Theres a reason ranked battles are in the same tier. Thats as balanced as it gets.This is elementary). These are all the numbers you need but they are overlooked and ignored.

 

so +1-1 on Ensk with 10 top tier heavies on 1 team vs 3 top tier heavies on the other team is balanced?    

                              

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FabulousBlock-x #84 Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:27 PM

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith-x, on 17 September 2020 - 12:14 PM, said:

 

so +1-1 on Ensk with 10 top tier heavies on 1 team vs 3 top tier heavies on the other team is balanced?    

 

View PostJohn Arrowsmith-x, on 17 September 2020 - 12:14 PM, said:

 

so +1-1 on Ensk with 10 top tier heavies on 1 team vs 3 top tier heavies on the other team is balanced?    

 

What does that.have to do with+-1.Thats gonna suck in +-2 worse.

John Arrowsmith-x #85 Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:30 PM

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View PostFabulousBlock-x, on 17 September 2020 - 12:27 PM, said:

 

 

What does that.have to do with+-1.Thats gonna suck in +-2 worse.

 

you are the one who said +1 balances the mm,  not me.

                              

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Na-ching-p #86 Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:43 PM

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This poll isnt serious...



HeavyKaragh-x #87 Posted 17 September 2020 - 12:52 PM

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View PostV4nquished79-x, on 16 September 2020 - 08:22 PM, said:

 

 

 

And about gold spam - I hate it and I need it - just imagine tier 10 heavies against mediums...Maus will be a king, E100 will go through the lines, obj705a will be immortal. 

 

You NEED gold rounds against same tier tanks, but you don't need them against higher tier tanks. Ok.



FabulousBlock-x #88 Posted 17 September 2020 - 01:07 PM

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith-x, on 17 September 2020 - 12:30 PM, said:

 

you are the one who said +1 balances the mm,  not me.

 

Ok your right. If the game developers cant take 13 heavys in a q. Put 7 on one team and 6 on the other we are in trouble. My point is +-1 does not make this worse and it

does give you a better chance of making a difference in sorry matchmaking like this.



Kaptain Proton-x #89 Posted 17 September 2020 - 01:59 PM

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I think if you just did a poll every week asking yes or no on +1-1MM.   Yes will always win.  I’m sure WG knows this.  So the question isn’t why most people like it and some don’t.   It’s why haven’t WG done it yet?  
 

I will list some of mine.  Feel free to add more or to debate mine.  (Spoiler alert.  There is only one reason.)
 

Player numbers.  That is the reason behind everything they do.  They consolidated servers and added crossplay.  Of course that didn’t add players it just moved everybody in one big pool.   
 

Isn’t the MM solved by player numbers?   I don’t know how the MM algorithm works but I would think that at peak times there are less  +2-2 games and more in off peak times.  
 

If WG Implements +1-1MM Permanently they are taking a huge risk.  They no longer have a buffer  at low peak times.   And if their player numbers start to go down the problem would cascade.  Either longer wait times or less than 15vs15 battles. 
 

I was kidding that there is only one reason but I do think it’s the main reason.   And other reasons probably stem from this.  
 

They might have some number that they are targeting in order to feel comfortable implementing +1-1MM.   So if they do go forward with it they must feel confident about the future of the game.  And that’s good for everyone. 



MaximusBoonie-x #90 Posted 17 September 2020 - 02:32 PM

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Is there any reason to spend money with 1-/+ matchmaking? I mean to keep the frustrating slog that it is. They would have to cut silver and xp earnings.

FabulousBlock-x #91 Posted 17 September 2020 - 03:04 PM

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View PostMaximusBoonie-x, on 17 September 2020 - 02:32 PM, said:

Is there any reason to spend money with 1-/+ matchmaking? I mean to keep the frustrating slog that it is. They would have to cut silver and xp earnings.

 

Thank you sir or madame(idk). For finally saying it. It will take away pay2win.No sense in polling. This settles it thank you.

 



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Pretty much okay with most things in the game as-is, after all it is just a game. I have not seen any lag between consoles or in game whatsoever, if you experience lag then maybe upgrade your internet service and equipment if available. Some areas and players are simply more remote and don't have access to the better fast internet speeds so they are kind of stuck with what they can get access to. Obviously the 15% PS boost is a made up tinfoil hat issue and not real but thanks for the laugh. :) Happy tanking all and when you run into a losing streak and get frustrated then go play another game for a bit and relax. 

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View PostFabulousBlock-x, on 17 September 2020 - 03:04 PM, said:

 

Thank you sir or madame(idk). For finally saying it. It will take away pay2win.No sense in polling. This settles it thank you.

 

 

So +2  is now pay to win.  

 

 

This along with the PS boosts is most likely why WG don't take notice of these polls.


                              

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M4ntiX-x #94 Posted 17 September 2020 - 04:13 PM

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View PostJohn Arrowsmith-x, on 17 September 2020 - 04:06 PM, said:

 

So +2  is now pay to win.  

 

 

This along with the PS boosts isbkost likely why WG don't take notice of these polls.

 

+/-2 matchmaking is "pay to win."

 

Baaaaaaaahahababbabababababbabbaaabaahhaha! :D

 

Now I've seen everything. This forum is great! :teethhappy:


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PrezBillClinton-x #95 Posted 17 September 2020 - 04:57 PM

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View PostM4ntiX-x, on 17 September 2020 - 11:13 AM, said:

 

+/-2 matchmaking is "pay to win."

 

Baaaaaaaahahababbabababababbabbaaabaahhaha! :D

 

Now I've seen everything. This forum is great! :teethhappy:

 

Still at 50% frustration level. There is still hope

If you don't know, ask someone who does.

 


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View PostPrezBillClinton-x, on 17 September 2020 - 04:57 PM, said:

 

Still at 50% frustration level. There is still hope

 

Yes sir, there's always hope. Although for some... it may simply be too late. :D

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View PostFabulousBlock-x, on 17 September 2020 - 12:30 AM, said:

These forums are a joke. You do a poll just to test the waters and see what ppl think and are called conspiracy theorist.(I dont know about the xp boost thing and i dont care). This is about mm. Not about whos the best at sealclubbing or defying all the odds. Its about if ppl like the mm. Im a 50%player and if my winrate goes downWhile playing so be it. +-1 is more popular for a reason.Its more exciting. The game is simply more enjoyable. I would rather lose knowing i contributed than win not doing anything and that happens no matter how good you are.

 

Have you tried completing the serious poll about mm, whilst skipping the boost questions that most don't seem to understand and haven't been clarified? 

 

If the forums were a joke, that might be why. 



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OP - can you clarify the boost questions for me, or add a "Don't understand / no comment" option for them please? 

I don't know what the 15% is, more xp, more rng, less rng, more winrate. 

 

As it is I can't compete the poll. I suspect that the boost questions might also call the credibility of the poll into question and detract from the other issues you are trying to raise. 

 

I would like to know whether wg can use variables in the mm calculations. Specifically whether it can use different mm based on server population numbers and revert to +/-2 during quiet hours if +/-1 were implemented. I think it would be an interesting test. 

 

**Edit - @MintoVimto, I see you lurking. Any chance you could ask the devs?


Edited by JelliedPenny08-x, 17 September 2020 - 05:47 PM.


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View PostMaximusBoonie-x, on 17 September 2020 - 06:32 AM, said:

Is there any reason to spend money with 1-/+ matchmaking? I mean to keep the frustrating slog that it is. They would have to cut silver and xp earnings.

 

XP and silver earnings get reduced down when you only face a tier above you,

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View PostMaximusBoonie-x, on 17 September 2020 - 09:32 AM, said:

Is there any reason to spend money with 1-/+ matchmaking? I mean to keep the frustrating slog that it is. They would have to cut silver and xp earnings.

 

*cough* *cough* Russian tier 9 mediums *cough* *cough* 




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