Jump to content


Perhaps 1 change to True Vision as tested to keep whiners happy - change nets.


  • Please log in to reply
62 replies to this topic

Ghoest9-p #1 Posted 18 October 2020 - 12:03 PM

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 21352 battles
  • 267
  • Member since:
    12-21-2015

Make it so a deployed net offers true invisibility  as long as you arent spotted/marked. But you could probably remove the camo bonus the nets offer. 

 

But keep the spotting/marking mechanics the same as in the test. 



M4ntiX-x #2 Posted 18 October 2020 - 12:11 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 38651 battles
  • 6,352
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    03-18-2014

Or better yet, make it so your tank disappears when you aren't spotted! How's that for a revolutionary idea?

 

WG, if it ain't broke, don't fix it! 


Current game frustration level: ██████▒▒▒▒  60%

"No one in history has ever been insulted into agreement." - Arthur Brooks


Ghoest9-p #3 Posted 18 October 2020 - 12:38 PM

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 21352 battles
  • 267
  • Member since:
    12-21-2015

How is invisibility at ranges this could be easily seen by any normal person, "better"

 

Its a ridiculous contrived mechanic that probably came into being because of hardware limitation. 



M4ntiX-x #4 Posted 18 October 2020 - 12:46 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 38651 battles
  • 6,352
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    03-18-2014

View PostGhoest9-p, on 18 October 2020 - 12:38 PM, said:

How is invisibility at ranges this could be easily seen by any normal person, "better"

 

Its a ridiculous contrived mechanic that probably came into being because of hardware limitation. 

 

It's better just as having hit points, mini maps, ability to repair tracks instantly, etc. It's a fundamental game mechanic and has nothing to do with hardware limitations. It's how the game was designed from the ground up.

 

I played 9 battles today, all in light tanks, won 8 of them, didn't enjoy a single one. I have clipped out a full health unspotted SU-130 from across the map in my Lycan. I bet this guy had fun... :facepalm:

 

Op, you really must like getting wrecked if you enjoy this Troll Vision crap so much.


Current game frustration level: ██████▒▒▒▒  60%

"No one in history has ever been insulted into agreement." - Arthur Brooks


Tempest fox3-x #5 Posted 18 October 2020 - 12:50 PM

    Major

  • Beta Tester
  • 24272 battles
  • 22,209
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    08-22-2013

View PostGhoest9-p, on 18 October 2020 - 12:38 PM, said:

How is invisibility at ranges this could be easily seen by any normal person, "better"

 

Its a ridiculous contrived mechanic that probably came into being because of hardware limitation. 

 

Regardless of the original reason for it. The game was designed that way. Shoe horning in this change after the entire game was designed one way doesn't work.

 

Though I don't expect you to understand that.

 

Go play war thunder if you like it so much. 


War is a Democracy and the enemy always gets a vote.

3 MoE's: E-25, M41 Walker Bulldog, E-50, Snakebite, E-75, T32, Tiger 131, Skoda T25, Boilermaker, Sentinel AC4 Experimental, M41B Brazil- In order obtained

 

Spoiler

killer etzi0-x #6 Posted 18 October 2020 - 01:01 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 63632 battles
  • 20,522
  • [-N0-]
  • Member since:
    06-20-2014

View PostTempest fox3-x, on 18 October 2020 - 06:50 AM, said:

 

Regardless of the original reason for it. The game was designed that way. Shoe horning in this change after the entire game was designed one way doesn't work.

 

Though I don't expect you to understand that.

 

Go play war thunder if you like it so much. 

 

^this^

 

I've spent a lot of money on this game over the past 6+ years. Those monies were spent based on reasonable knowledge/expectations of the direction the game was proceeding in. WG has completely blown that out of the water. Since I know there is no way I can get a refund of money spent the past 12 months, my only option is to post "dear WG and Staff" threads.

If my forum account gets banned at some point, so be it. They aren't paying attention to most of our requests/complaints so no loss there right?


"When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat."

 

Ronald Reagan
 

 


IBROX 04-x #7 Posted 18 October 2020 - 01:06 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 22454 battles
  • 12,105
  • [BNKR]
  • Member since:
    11-10-2014

View Postkiller etzi0-x, on 18 October 2020 - 02:01 PM, said:

 

^this^

 

I've spent a lot of money on this game over the past 6+ years. Those monies were spent based on reasonable knowledge/expectations of the direction the game was proceeding in. WG has completely blown that out of the water. Since I know there is no way I can get a refund of money spent the past 12 months, my only option is to post "dear WG and Staff" threads.

If my forum account gets banned at some point, so be it. They aren't paying attention to most of our requests/complaints so no loss there right?

 

They aren't even answering, facing, talking, or speaking to the community. Just the usual, head in the sand and ignoring us. Oh yeah, if you count deleting posts here and on the feed. That's it. 

Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm

 

 

 


Tempest fox3-x #8 Posted 18 October 2020 - 01:07 PM

    Major

  • Beta Tester
  • 24272 battles
  • 22,209
  • [JOCO]
  • Member since:
    08-22-2013

View Postkiller etzi0-x, on 18 October 2020 - 01:01 PM, said:

 

^this^

 

I've spent a lot of money on this game over the past 6+ years. Those monies were spent based on reasonable knowledge/expectations of the direction the game was proceeding in. WG has completely blown that out of the water. Since I know there is no way I can get a refund of money spent the past 12 months, my only option is to post "dear WG and Staff" threads.

If my forum account gets banned at some point, so be it. They aren't paying attention to most of our requests/complaints so no loss there right?

 

WG seem too busy paying attention to the 49%ers who love the change because they never understood the spotting mechanics in the first place. 


War is a Democracy and the enemy always gets a vote.

3 MoE's: E-25, M41 Walker Bulldog, E-50, Snakebite, E-75, T32, Tiger 131, Skoda T25, Boilermaker, Sentinel AC4 Experimental, M41B Brazil- In order obtained

 

Spoiler

IBROX 04-x #9 Posted 18 October 2020 - 01:15 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 22454 battles
  • 12,105
  • [BNKR]
  • Member since:
    11-10-2014

View PostTempest fox3-x, on 18 October 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

 

WG seem too busy paying attention to the 49%ers who love the change because they never understood the spotting mechanics in the first place. 

 

Also to busy with silly true vision and ignoring the real issues with the game it seems. 

Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm

 

 

 


pingwrx-p #10 Posted 18 October 2020 - 03:07 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 28706 battles
  • 2,343
  • [REDIT]
  • Member since:
    01-31-2016

View PostTempest fox3-x, on 18 October 2020 - 05:07 AM, said:

 

WG seem too busy paying attention to the 49%ers who love the change because they never understood the spotting mechanics in the first place. 

Those 49%ers get wrecked enough because they can't understand spotting mechanics or how tv works will all leave too eventually


 


 


TimMac PA-x #11 Posted 18 October 2020 - 03:16 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 60638 battles
  • 3,159
  • Member since:
    03-25-2014
My thought has always been if you simply rotate your net should stay in place anyway. Move a meter or two and it should reset..

CatSnipah-x #12 Posted 18 October 2020 - 03:23 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 32688 battles
  • 6,857
  • [BNKR]
  • Member since:
    11-10-2013

View PostGhoest9-p, on 18 October 2020 - 12:03 PM, said:

Make it so a deployed net offers true invisibility  as long as you arent spotted/marked. But you could probably remove the camo bonus the nets offer. 

 

But keep the spotting/marking mechanics the same as in the test. 

 

Anyone who disagrees with you is a “whiner”?

 

What are you, 10 years old?



RaggaMuffinReap-x #13 Posted 18 October 2020 - 04:39 PM

    First lieutenant

  • Players
  • 29700 battles
  • 784
  • [XPBLS]
  • Member since:
    02-13-2014

Most smaller tanks are invisable in a bush already, have you seen the camo factor on a vangaurd lately??? 

I nearly rammed one by accident, i had to proxy him

And i dont believe the net should make you invisable, it should be visualy represented tho.

 



Warsteiner 1-x #14 Posted 18 October 2020 - 04:43 PM

    Major

  • Beta Tester
  • 47030 battles
  • 2,252
  • [C-X-L]
  • Member since:
    07-03-2013

View PostGhoest9-p, on 18 October 2020 - 06:03 AM, said:

Make it so a deployed net offers true invisibility  as long as you arent spotted/marked. But you could probably remove the camo bonus the nets offer. 

 

But keep the spotting/marking mechanics the same as in the test. 

 

Excellent idea !!!

and while they are at it , lets add Romulan cloaking devices to heavies !

 


 

 


CatSnipah-x #15 Posted 18 October 2020 - 05:11 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 32688 battles
  • 6,857
  • [BNKR]
  • Member since:
    11-10-2013

View PostWarsteiner 1-x, on 18 October 2020 - 04:43 PM, said:

 

Excellent idea !!!

and while they are at it , lets add Romulan cloaking devices to heavies !

 

 

Well the thing's gotta have a tail pipe (Yeah, I know it was a Klingon ship for that quote, but it seemed fitting).

Otis Z Firefly-x #16 Posted 19 October 2020 - 01:36 PM

    Major

  • Players
  • 26734 battles
  • 2,049
  • [FRFLY]
  • Member since:
    09-11-2015

View PostWarsteiner 1-x, on 18 October 2020 - 04:43 PM, said:

 

Excellent idea !!!

and while they are at it , lets add Romulan cloaking devices to heavies !

 

 

Isn't that what we have normally? 
Ordo ab Chao.

Ghoest9-p #17 Posted 19 October 2020 - 02:39 PM

    Staff sergeant

  • Players
  • 21352 battles
  • 267
  • Member since:
    12-21-2015

View PostWarsteiner 1-x, on 18 October 2020 - 04:43 PM, said:

 

Excellent idea !!!

and while they are at it , lets add Romulan cloaking devices to heavies !

 

 

?????

 

In the current game people just disappear standing in open fields.

 

In my suggestion you would only disappear if you covered yourself with a camo net AND were not spotted.  Spotting would work the same as it does now so  so the only time net would make you disappear - would be in situation where you have disappeared anyway under the original rule set.  



KingBorisDantas-p #18 Posted 19 October 2020 - 02:41 PM

    Sergeant

  • Players
  • 2087 battles
  • 186
  • Member since:
    07-20-2017
   Here is a suggestion, in the first minute have true vision off, then let it switch on. At least that way slow tanks could move away from the spawn point and find a reasonable position to fight from. As it is, nobody will be playing slow tanks if they know about true vision because slow tanks are dead tanks in true vision as it is!

MintoVimto-x #19 Posted 19 October 2020 - 06:02 PM

    Community Liaison

  • Administrator
  • 900 battles
  • 327
  • [WGW]
  • Member since:
    05-05-2020

View PostIBROX 04-x, on 18 October 2020 - 08:15 AM, said:

 

Also to busy with silly true vision and ignoring the real issues with the game it seems. 

 

Or enjoying their weekend off... You know we don't work weekends! Just to let you all know, I went over to the Say No To True Vision Discord server and had a talk with the mods over there about feedback regarding the True Vision Test. I also spoke to various other members of the community all week regarding True Vision and now I am spending today and parts of tomorrow going over all of the feedback. I know the community would really appreciate more transparency, and we are working on that. But we absolutely weren't ignoring the community or have our heads in the sand.

Liam Hart

Community Liaison

Wargaming Chicago - Baltimore


KingBorisDantas-p #20 Posted 19 October 2020 - 06:05 PM

    Sergeant

  • Players
  • 2087 battles
  • 186
  • Member since:
    07-20-2017

View PostMintoVimto-x, on 19 October 2020 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

Or enjoying their weekend off... You know we don't work weekends! Just to let you all know, I went over to the Say No To True Vision Discord server and had a talk with the mods over there about feedback regarding the True Vision Test. I also spoke to various other members of the community all week regarding True Vision and now I am spending today and parts of tomorrow going over all of the feedback. I know the community would really appreciate more transparency, and we are working on that. But we absolutely weren't ignoring the community or have our heads in the sand.

 

I want to say thank you Minto for responding.




7 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 7 guests, 0 anonymous users