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[XxDark90SirenxX-x]

This forum does not represent the playerbase at large and unfortunately probably wont ever. If these last few months and the months to come don't make that clear then nothing ever will. You can't force wg to listen. You cant force the playerbase to agree because its clear they don't.  Wg has chosen a direction based on this fact. If you all wanted to be taken seriously then you should have been more open to new things and new ideas. But now its out if not just the hands of this forum but the chicago team as well. This forum no longer has the population of active posters big enough to matter and thats just reality.

 

     I personally dislike many of their decisions lately but the years of screaming about frivolous [edited]mean no one currently in charge sees any reason to care. I came here for my love of tanks and history and stayed for the unique style of game wot console offered. I stayed for tge interesting prototypes coming to life as well as the tsnks from other property. And i imagine im not alone.

 

     But the constant whining, complaining, childish demanding wg listen and the moaning about any tank that dared to be even slightly off color from what people here perceive as historical has ruined the credibility of the only vocal element of the community we had. But sure if a poll makes you feel better about it why not

Edited by XxDark90SirenxX-x, 28 October 2020 - 09:28 PM.

[THEGREATWHITE56-p]

XxDark90SirenxX-x, on 28 October 2020 - 09:27 PM, said:

This forum does not represent the playerbase at large and unfortunately probably wont ever. If these last few months and the months to come don't make that clear then nothing ever will. You can't force wg to listen. You cant force the playerbase to agree because its clear they don't.  Wg has chosen a direction based on this fact. If you all wanted to be taken seriously then you should have been more open to new things and new ideas. But now its out if not just the hands of this forum but the chicago team as well. This forum no longer has the population of active posters big enough to matter and thats just reality.

 

     I personally dislike many of their decisions lately but the years of screaming about frivolous [edited]mean no one currently in charge sees any reason to care. I came here for my love of tanks and history and stayed for the unique style of game wot console offered. I stayed for tge interesting prototypes coming to life as well as the tsnks from other property. And i imagine im not alone.

 

     But the constant whining, complaining, childish demanding wg listen and the moaning about any tank that dared to be even slightly off color from what people here perceive as historical has ruined the credibility of the only vocal element of the community we had. But sure if a poll makes you feel better about it why not

 

You're mistaken if you think this poll is a way to "whine and complain" or try and force WG to listen. I created this poll because I was keen/curious on hearing what others had to say about some of the things happening in WOT right now. There's too many threads out there to go read through them and quite frankly, theres not enough time in the day. I'll agree with you that there are many out there scream and shout when something doesn't go their way, but not every post on the forum is created just to cry to WG. You're absolutely wrong if you think that this poll is intended to try and get them to listen, and, try to get the player base to agree with each other. But if you want to keep being arrogant because it makes you "feel better", why not

[D1RT3AGG-x]

Instead of dropping platoon size, what WG should do is limit platoons from having too many of one type of tank.

Limit of 2 artillery per platoon, or 2 light tanks or 2 TDs.

Also platoons should be balanced so that both teams have equal tier platoons.

Those two things are the biggest problems with platoons in WoT.

[MaximusBoonie-x]

Dyslexsticks-x, on 28 October 2020 - 01:41 PM, said:

Unrelated but I completely forgot about Core Breach.

 

The time they did mechs for some reason. Tsk tsk tsk, you wanna do mechs, you need to go bigger with orbital frames like Jehuty.

 

long before world of tanks. They were day 1 studios. They made Mechassault. One of the first games for Xbox live.

[Mr Flak Yau-x]

WG hasn't listened in 6 years. 

[R0B-x]

MaximusBoonie-x, on 29 October 2020 - 05:44 AM, said:

 

long before world of tanks. They were day 1 studios. They made Mechassault. One of the first games for Xbox live.

 

Flashbacks flooding in...But we are LONG overdue for Mechassault 3... 

[Dyslexsticks-x]

MaximusBoonie-x, on 29 October 2020 - 05:44 AM, said:

 

long before world of tanks. They were day 1 studios. They made Mechassault. One of the first games for Xbox live.

 

Interesting, but it's no wonder I missed out on playing it.

 

When we first got our 360 we were struggling a bit and couldn't afford the internet the way we were, just played what we could offline.

[LifeTilts-x]

TIL: 54% of forumers are cheaters who rely on premium rounds as a crutch.

[M4ntiX-x]

LifeTilts-x, on 29 October 2020 - 08:59 AM, said:

TIL: 54% of forumers are cheaters who rely on premium rounds as a crutch.

 

Fortunately the idiots that refuse to use premium rounds are in the minority.

[dzhey43-x]

M4ntiX-x, on 29 October 2020 - 12:06 PM, said:

 

Fortunately the idiots that refuse to use premium rounds are in the minority.

 

well said. They shoot standard and he doing no damage, no contribution for victory, useless players who that cry premium ammo is cheats.

[LifeTilts-x]

M4ntiX-x, on 29 October 2020 - 11:06 AM, said:

Fortunately the idiots that refuse to use premium rounds are in the minority.

 

Some learn to play the game, others buy skill and/or get their buddies to help cover their own shortcoming.

[natedaishmaster-x]

LifeTilts-x, on 29 October 2020 - 07:08 AM, said:

 

Some learn to play the game, others buy skill and/or get their buddies to help cover their own shortcoming.

 

I voted for prem rounds to get a damage nerf and price buff. It is a bit unfair they're just simply better in a lot of cases but it is good for WG making money. I use premium rounds because they are better and I have more silver than I need as a F2P player. Plus I play competitive and I don't like having to switch loadouts from pubs to competitive.

[CatSnipah-x]

LifeTilts-x, on 29 October 2020 - 08:59 AM, said:

TIL: 54% of forumers are cheaters who rely on premium rounds as a crutch.

 

Please explain how something is cheating if literally every single person who logs in the play the game has access to it.

[natedaishmaster-x]

CatSnipah-x, on 29 October 2020 - 07:33 AM, said:

 

Please explain how something is cheating if literally every single person who logs in the play the game has access to it.

 

Prem rounds are extremely unfair. They heavily benefit players like me who don't spend silver grinding tanks and am good enough to play ranked to get enough silver to not worry about running out. It isn't quite as P2W as gold but it still provides either a time or monetary investment for new players to get on a level playing field. Tilts likes to believe he'd have 3500 WN8 if he used prem so he doesn't listen to anyone's advice cuz he thinks he's just as good or better. That being said, he's been unable to 3 mark any tier Xs with or without prem (he claims laziness, it's not worth it) so we all know he doesn't actually know what he's talking about

[TocFanKe4-x]

XxDark90SirenxX-x, on 28 October 2020 - 04:27 PM, said:

This forum does not represent the playerbase at large and unfortunately probably wont ever. If these last few months and the months to come don't make that clear then nothing ever will. You can't force wg to listen. You cant force the playerbase to agree because its clear they don't.  Wg has chosen a direction based on this fact. If you all wanted to be taken seriously then you should have been more open to new things and new ideas. But now its out if not just the hands of this forum but the chicago team as well. This forum no longer has the population of active posters big enough to matter and thats just reality.

 

     I personally dislike many of their decisions lately but the years of screaming about frivolous [edited]mean no one currently in charge sees any reason to care. I came here for my love of tanks and history and stayed for the unique style of game wot console offered. I stayed for tge interesting prototypes coming to life as well as the tsnks from other property. And i imagine im not alone.

 

     But the constant whining, complaining, childish demanding wg listen and the moaning about any tank that dared to be even slightly off color from what people here perceive as historical has ruined the credibility of the only vocal element of the community we had. But sure if a poll makes you feel better about it why not

 

It's my only way to give feedback, because I haven't got one of WG's surveys in over 4 years. Their survey system is extremely flawed. They really should do in game surveys that allow the entire community to respond instead of a subset that doesn't represent the overall community.

[LifeTilts-x]

CatSnipah-x, on 29 October 2020 - 05:33 PM, said:

Please explain how something is cheating if literally every single person who logs in the play the game has access to it.

 

Some have more access than others. Anyone without a premium account would have to run at a silver deficit trying to keep their tanks competitive. #Pay2win

 

The so called competitive modes are the only avenues that are fair but they don't track your stats, this makes them casual modes. 

 

Not wanting a rebalance is a clear sign that you want to have an unfair advantage over others. That makes you a cheater.

[FusionStar287-x]

LifeTilts-x, on 29 October 2020 - 12:10 PM, said:

 

Some have more access than others. Anyone without a premium account would have to run at a silver deficit trying to keep their tanks competitive. #Pay2win

 

The so called competitive modes are the only avenues that are fair but they don't track your stats, this makes them casual modes. 

 

Not wanting a rebalance is a clear sign that you want to have an unfair advantage over others. That makes you a cheater.

[natedaishmaster-x]

LifeTilts-x, on 29 October 2020 - 09:10 AM, said:

 

Some have more access than others. Anyone without a premium account would have to run at a silver deficit trying to keep their tanks competitive. #Pay2win

 

The so called competitive modes are the only avenues that are fair but they don't track your stats, this makes them casual modes. 

 

Not wanting a rebalance is a clear sign that you want to have an unfair advantage over others. That makes you a cheater.

 

I'm F2P, always have been, I've had a prem account for a year, and have gotten 20k gold from warchests from various ranked or free events. It isn't impossible to get to a point where you don't need to spend money to have surplus silver. In my case is it "cheating" to use my surplus silver on prem rounds?

[FusionStar287-x]

natedaishmaster-x, on 29 October 2020 - 12:37 PM, said:

 

I'm F2P, always have been, I've had a prem account for a year, and have gotten 20k gold from warchests from various ranked or free events. It isn't impossible to get to a point where you don't need to spend money to have surplus silver. In my case is it "cheating" to use my surplus silver on prem rounds?

Of course! As everyone knows using a resource that's available to every player in the game is obviously cheating.

[THAT BLOKE 500-x]

nWo-Iron_Eagle-p, on 28 October 2020 - 01:07 PM, said:

All this plus 1 minus 1 crap needs to go everyone here is blind as a bat fire up a Tier one to Tier 4 tank you will have what you want and guess what? its broken.

I'm not surprised lower tiers are a balance nightmare festering with sealclubber tanks and AI, however most of that is due to a mixture of over-powered premiums, massive discrepancies in balance (Marders and Matilda are fairly egregious examples of this), and a lack of incentive to clean up that low tier mess.
 

part 2:

Why is this +1/-1 broken? because 0 of the tanks were balanced around it you have tier 4's with tier 6 guns/stats or certain tier 2's that will never be challenged. Heck the valentine 2 now is like a maus the  awhile back my V2 there were 2 pz js tanks attacking me i got up walked away came back few mins later as it was tdm i lost 0 hp killed both GG.

 
Huh? I presume you're referring to the VK 20.01 D, and yeah it's broken even bottom tier if the player has a braincell to spare, and +1/-1 exacerbates how broken some of these tanks are. Why would this be a good thing? you ask. So WG can see how badly they messed up and rebalance those tanks like they did other problem vehicles such as the Hetzer. The Valentine 2 already has +0mm without +1/-1 so the effect that tank has will not change and it will not become stronger as a result. In the mean time you could focus on collecting a list of those more powerful tanks and how they outclass the near-literal garbage in that tier range (or perhaps stop playing lower tier sealclub tanks and leave the new players in a safer learning environment).
 

Part 3:

I hate the lower tier's as they drive away new players and reveal if they put in plus one minus 1 without a huge tank balance then there will be the have and have not's of the tank world. Its already 60% russian scrub lords out there firing he rounds in there overpowered russian tanks with the MM change know one will be using a large amount of tanks you will just see top armor/guns everywhere.

 I mean look at tier 9 and or 10 for tank usage stat's.

Russian tanks op lol. CKV1 and bogatyr are pretty sad. Dreadnought needs a bit of a nerf because it's just too good. KV2 itself is fine and honestly it's better for all involved if it stops seeing tier 6s, same with Dread and a lot of the SU/ISU line...  A lot of these balance issues appear in other lines (the pzV/IV which needs to be uptiered, the Minuteman etc).

The reason Russian lines are so popular isn't due entirely to their "op" nature - they make good new player recommendations, some lines are actually strong like IS7/ T100 / obj 261 / T-54, with the biggest factor benig the number of Russians on PS4 and Xbox who have grown up with loyalties and memories of these tanks ingrained into their cultural history (along with other players that see the T-34 and other tanks as iconic or memey).

But K-91, obj 907, 140 / 430, T62a,  268 v4, 277, IS-4... if you think any of these are OP you must be livid at the existence of the QL and the PC chieftain. 
The most popular tanks right now are a mix of the ones that WG gave away during each season and those that everyone has and everyone finds enjoyable (see: Russian, American, British, amnd German).
 

A final few words:

What you hate about reduced MM is the thought that these tanks will become more powerful, as if being stamped on by +2MM  is keeping them in check from slaughtering the Matchmaker with OP super-tanks. But it's simply obfuscating the data. Meanwhile those under-powered tanks, regardless of tier, suffer from facing the +2 tier tanks that they can't fight nowhere near as easily as  the ones you're worried about.

We're not locking the underperformers in with the wolves when we request limited MM, it's the opposite. A tiger can't do much good against a Conqueror, but it can do quite a bit more against a Caernarvon or a 131. being top tier right now means that at least 1/3rd of the enemy team is ineffective against you (that same Tiger chews up P.43s and T-34s) , while at least 1/3rd is a concerning threat (Hellcats and KV2s), and the threat of the opponents at the top depends on how healthy the balance at your tier is (here lies minutemen, T29s, 131s, and dreadnoughts). +1/-1 means that we don't get 1/3rd cannon fodder every few matches, so steamrolls and flank collapses happen less often, and games become more consistent as you find yourself able to rely on your team to survive long enough for you to deliver a crushing blow to the enemy team through being a better player, not a better clubber.