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Poll: Silver Bleed (102 members have cast votes)

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Are you more conservative because you don't want to overspend Silver?

  1. Yes (66 votes [64.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 64.71%

  2. No (36 votes [35.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.29%

Are you considerate in which tank and tier you play because of Silver rather than usual criteria (grind/fun etc)

  1. Yes (68 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. No (34 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

Do you refrain from using Premium ammunition because of Silver Bleed?

  1. Yes (52 votes [50.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.98%

  2. No (50 votes [49.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.02%

Are you more careful in your game play, trying to survive and win to enhance Silver earnings? (more conscious than before)

  1. Yes (54 votes [52.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.94%

  2. No (48 votes [47.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 47.06%

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N6X507-p #1 Posted 14 January 2021 - 02:57 PM

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I was following a player while he streamed battles played with a Foch 155 with the 155mm gun.

 

The stream duration was over two hours, and I think that in his most successful battles, he was doing about -10k, and his worse, in the -50 and more kSilver. He was running enhanced consumables and rations, and using Premium ammunition when required.

 

He did not stream his Silver start and Silver end stash, but I am certain his losses were considerable.

 

This brought me to wonder if anyone of you have changed how you approach your battles due to the apparent revised Silver consumption?

 

-Stopped using Premium ammunition, or with parsimony? this was a subject of contention before; a lot of players asked WG to change Premium rounds cost.

-Refrain from using "enhanced" kits or "rations" on all the tanks.

-Conscious on which tank you play based on Silver earnings/losses?

-Mindful on which Tier since it seems that Tier X is now more expensive than before?

-Careful on staying alive, to minimize Silver bleed?

-Curing Silver with alternating the tanks you want to play with Silver earning vehicles?

-Purchased Premium time?

 

Or, you don't have changed anything...



Goddog-x #2 Posted 14 January 2021 - 03:02 PM

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changes to my consumables has been the biggest impact. followed by I cannot strip equipment to buy new tanks in a pinch, so purchases have been delayed. 

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PhonicKitty8825-x #3 Posted 14 January 2021 - 03:03 PM

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No

bigpikle-x #4 Posted 14 January 2021 - 04:43 PM

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1) I removed all consumables from all tanks. 

2) I am running all newly acquired tanks (on-track op) with NO equipment what so ever

3) I am equipping a MINIMUM number of premium rounds.  Just enough to scare someone off rather than obliterate them.

If I don`t do that, I will not have enough silver to buy the next tank in line.  Funny enough, my WR and my WN8 have gone up as I am being significantly less aggressive than before.  Even with a premium account and all mentioned precautions, I am not making as much silver as before 6.0



Dialga88-x #5 Posted 14 January 2021 - 04:46 PM

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Just playing normal, i barely used Premium Consumables before 6.0 but i will say that i feel like i have to use a Consumable in a battle now as it charges regardless, Pre 6.0, i used when needed.

ooo NO ONE ooo-x #6 Posted 14 January 2021 - 04:56 PM

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I don't play so I should have the same amount of silver if I ever log back in. 

However, this is WG so I may well be charged for having consumables just sitting in my tank. Who knows.



yota151-p #7 Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:02 PM

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I don't use the premium consumables at all.

Ste01706-x #8 Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:05 PM

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Not enough of the community take part in these polls for wg to care

 



John Arrowsmith-x #9 Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:17 PM

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Nope,   no silver issues here.    But I suppose 6.0  made sure of that as I have no intention of playing the broken mess the player base has been left with.

                 This game needs More than a premium M3 Lee

 

I refuse to add one of those WN8 sigs as requested,   I have not played WoTc since  14th Dec 2020.   The new game is bad,   I played a few games  on the 15th Dec 2020 and haven't played since.

 

 


Joco3000-x #10 Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:17 PM

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Silver has been a non-issue for me.

I think the update threw several million at me, and whenever I drop below 20 million they seem to throw us an earn op for a tank I already own. That nets me another 6 million or so.

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Mr2Much64-x #11 Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:30 PM

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Before 6.0 I ran small repair, small med, food.  Made silver on my premiums and broke even/small loss on TT.

I ran the 6.0 equivalent and consistently lose silver.

I now run just small repair and med except for my Tier IX & X where I run the food still.

 

The big one that brutalizes is the 1/2 silver refund to dismount equipment. I like to TT grind and play premiums to support that and build crew skills.  I used to just dismount equipment from the previous Tier as I moved up.  That can leave me with about ~1 million silver deficit to be dug out.  This makes me question the viability of TT grinding at all.

 

I only ever shot about 10% prammo, mostly when I am bottom tier in +2/-2.  I have probably reduced that a little.  I used to shoot it as necessary regardless of how the battle is going.  Since 6.0 seems to really punish the silver during a loss regardless of performance, I will weigh the odds of victory and not spend prammo on a forlorn hope.


Edited by Mr2Much64-x, 14 January 2021 - 05:35 PM.


SightlessRogue0-x #12 Posted 14 January 2021 - 05:46 PM

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For me since the "Silver Bleed" I have selected the OP tanks or with the best bonuses as favorites in the garage filter (Qilin, Blue, Crimson's, Black, Mc Dragon ....) and I only play with them at because of the costs / benefits they offer.

 

All the other premiums are For Sale, for example Concept 1B, VK75, Valor, Obj 260, Kpzr 50, Fangula ..... all those who are not OP or who do not offer a bonus above normal. This means that as soon as I hit my operational limit (100,000,000 silver) I will eliminate 3 or 4 each time because of their bad costs / profit.
This is now the reality, several premium tanks are no longer worth playing with him.

 

Obviously this has an effect on my buying habits. If the proposed tank is not openly OP or does not have money bonuses approaching that of Crimson's tank (or other great bonus justifying the Silver Bleed), I will not buy.


Edited by SightlessRogue0-x, 14 January 2021 - 05:49 PM.

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RELIC x-x #13 Posted 14 January 2021 - 06:12 PM

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I had and still have large stockpile of consumables and the season rewards include 3.5 million silver outright, plus another 3.6 million if you sell the 6 commanders you get.  The Draugen Op was another 3M+ silver.

 

I had about 54M when the season started and I have about 60M now.  I've been using premium ammo almost exclusively.

 

I don't usually have premium time, but the season has 14 days of that too, so I still have some premium time for the next few days..  I'm sure the silver bleed will start when the premium time ends and the stockpile of consumables is used up, but I play very little now and have stopped grinding altogether, except one arty I'll play every couple of days.

 

I'm thinking my tolerance of 6.0 will end long before the 60M silver runs out.  It's just a shame.



animatethant-x #14 Posted 14 January 2021 - 06:17 PM

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Most people know what I'm doing as the game is in a strange state.

- play op tanks, make a little bit of silver
- play minimal games in order to stem silver loss (like the plaguebringer, love the tank but way I play it I will lose 35-50k using prem consumables and prem ammo)
- play ragnarok and make anywhere from 15k-100k and mostly in-between due to its dmg potential and silver multiplier.

Haukkis-x #15 Posted 14 January 2021 - 06:29 PM

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No. I really don't care since I have over 144 mil silver and almost all tier X tanks that I want. You gotta use that silver for something, eh? ;)

SILVRCAT-x #16 Posted 14 January 2021 - 06:42 PM

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I’m not seeing a drastic change in silver earnings myself, however I’m only grinding my last three tier X’s and then playing Premiums. 

Yes sometimes I loose silver too.

I also have never ran premium consumables on tanks (specially three at a time), this was already expensive to do pre update.

 

I do believe it though that for lower tiers or newer players it must be much tougher silver wise. 

They need to improve silver gains so players are motivated to continue expanding.

Reducing it only kills the will to advance in the game.



XuamerP-x #17 Posted 14 January 2021 - 09:23 PM

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I used to use consumables sparingly to save money but hell now that you lose them even if you don't use them so what's the point. So I have been going into battle without them and hasn't really made a different.  And since I only play a couple of my favorites tanks now that work best on the couple of battlefields we get now, no need for the rest.  Have NO plan to grind anymore and NO need to train crews anymore so I sold off so many tanks that I don't even have enough left for all my maxed out crews!  I'm using all that silver on premium ammo.  If I ever run out of silver then I'll be done.



Knallteufel 777-x #18 Posted 14 January 2021 - 09:54 PM

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Simple measure to never ever (ok to 99%) losing silver...without premium account:

 

1. Use premium tanks with 50% silver bonus

2. HE only

3. All skills for assist damage

4. Don`'t use repair kits

5. Yolo / 100% maximum attack. Die quick and have fun :trollface:

 

 

 



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Taken out all Premium Consumables and replaced them with standard ones. The Premium ones seem pointless now as the games are usually over one way or another before they can be reused in the first place. 

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D34D o KingPin-x #20 Posted 15 January 2021 - 12:41 AM

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Having to play premium tanks that earn creds just to use tech tree at the moment, it’s put me off grinding tech tree to be honest as it’s not fun seeing silver losses mount up even when having good games with premium time

Otherwise same as before play tanks as game requires, prem round only when needed etc

I dislike this silver earning move it’s a [edited]way to treat the players free to play and paying alike




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