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PhonicKitty8825-x #21 Posted 05 April 2021 - 09:58 PM

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View PostHaukkis-x, on 05 April 2021 - 09:48 PM, said:

 

Not too bad but still bit slugghish compared to T-10. Btw, have you played 113, WZ-111 5A or Object 260? Those feel way faster and nimble.

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View PostHaukkis-x, on 05 April 2021 - 09:46 PM, said:

 

It's always been like this. Imo, IS-7 is fine as it is, it doesn't need buff for it's engine power, even though it got buffed on PC. If you want better acceleration for heavytank try Object 260, T-10, WZ-111 5A or 113. If you're unhappy with IS-7, you picked wrong line to grind. Maeby you should've done some researching before starting that grind. That said, I also felt bit disappointed with IS-7 at first, it felt slugghish after playing so many battles with IS-8 (current T-10) which used to lead towards IS-7 back in day. I'm used to it now, IS-7 feels fast enough. Maeby you'll get used to it when you're played over 300 battles with it  ;) Anyway, good luck on the battlefield comrade  :)

 

I did research. I even looked at the alt site somebody posted before and it had the same wrong info. My whole complaint is the info I researched and got from WG is wrong. It's not like I can test drive the tanks to see if WG put the wrong info in for the tank. And the info being wrong is rare enough that I didn't even realize it was a thing to watch out for. And sure I can get used to the IS7 just like you could get used to driving a car that can only turn left. I still put in a lot of effort and time to buy something that was mislabeled. And that's not my fault for not, "researching," as some of you are trying to pin on me. Nobody has pointed to an accurate source of info. If the game devs can't post the right info then who can really?

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View PostPhonicKitty8825-x, on 05 April 2021 - 09:40 PM, said:

You can get to that speed, but only if you drive straight, don't ever turn if you want to go fast in the IS-7 on flat ground. Ramming is still fun though, especialy down hill, I once rammed a M48 for 700-900 damage.

 

Are you sure about that? I did everything I could in the video I posted and still came up pretty short.

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So the ticket response I got sent me here so I could let the developers know. Do developers ever show their faces here?

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View PostUncleEbonezer-p, on 05 April 2021 - 11:53 PM, said:

 

I did research. I even looked at the alt site somebody posted before and it had the same wrong info. My whole complaint is the info I researched and got from WG is wrong. It's not like I can test drive the tanks to see if WG put the wrong info in for the tank. And the info being wrong is rare enough that I didn't even realize it was a thing to watch out for. And sure I can get used to the IS7 just like you could get used to driving a car that can only turn left. I still put in a lot of effort and time to buy something that was mislabeled. And that's not my fault for not, "researching," as some of you are trying to pin on me. Nobody has pointed to an accurate source of info. If the game devs can't post the right info then who can really?

 

You can see ground resistance (terrain resistance) values and power to weight ration in Tankopedia in WG's website. By looking at those stats you could easily see/estimated that it won't reach it's full speed on flat ground. It's not The Machine. 

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View PostUncleEbonezer-p, on 05 April 2021 - 06:57 PM, said:

So the ticket response I got sent me here so I could let the developers know. Do developers ever show their faces here?

 

Yep, I was the first one to respond to you to let you know that it's not a bug. :honoring:

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PhonicKitty8825-x #27 Posted 06 April 2021 - 10:31 AM

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View PostUncleEbonezer-p, on 05 April 2021 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

Are you sure about that? I did everything I could in the video I posted and still came up pretty short.

Depends on the ground type.


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View PostHaukkis-x, on 06 April 2021 - 12:13 AM, said:

 

You can see ground resistance (terrain resistance) values and power to weight ration in Tankopedia in WG's website. By looking at those stats you could easily see/estimated that it won't reach it's full speed on flat ground. It's not The Machine. 

So what's the formula that I use to "easily" figure out what the actual top speed is from the two super obvious values tucked into the off console web page?



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View PostMaxChaos24-x, on 06 April 2021 - 10:17 AM, said:

 

Yep, I was the first one to respond to you to let you know that it's not a bug. :honoring:

 

So does the speed number mean anything or is it a nonsense number you put in the tank entry?

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It's the maximum speed.  Some tanks only ever reach that on a hard surface or rolling down a hill.  IMO, the tanks that can't hit top speed going flat and level on a road (say the main road on Port) should either have their ground resistance reduced or their engine power increased until they can do so.  AMX 40 comes to mind as well.

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View PostPontiac Pat-x, on 06 April 2021 - 04:42 PM, said:

It's the maximum speed.  Some tanks only ever reach that on a hard surface or rolling down a hill.  IMO, the tanks that can't hit top speed going flat and level on a road (say the main road on Port) should either have their ground resistance reduced or their engine power increased until they can do so.  AMX 40 comes to mind as well.

 

But it's not. Tanks can go faster than that number when going downhill. For most of the other tanks I've tested, the listed speed is just the speed they go on a level surface...which makes sense.

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View PostMaxChaos24-x, on 05 April 2021 - 05:46 PM, said:

Hello, this is not a bug. While it has a high top speed, its engine isn't powerful enough to get it there due to its weight unless going downhill. 

 

I've asked a couple of times and not gotten an answer. If you're a developer then you should be able to tell me what the speed value actually represents.

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So something I don’t think your taking into account is that tanks actual have a speed limiter going down hill. For example the e100 can’t come anywhere near as fast as an is7 downhill because it only goes a certain amount over its ‘maximum speed’. This makes the is7 a fantastic situational rammer. Also your far too worked up over this. What I mean is doing research across this very forum or other review YouTube videos for example. Had you watched a single is7 gameplay video you would have seen pretty easily that it’s not a very fast tank in reality. Also probably should have noticed all the is7s you run into in game not just cruising around the map

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View PostUncleEbonezer-p, on 07 April 2021 - 04:05 PM, said:

 

I've asked a couple of times and not gotten an answer. If you're a developer then you should be able to tell me what the speed value actually represents.

 

It's the set maximum speed that a tank is allowed to reach under its own power. 

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You've gotten your answer numerous times, don't you think it is time to move on or just keep harping on this....Top speed is just that, a top speed. It does not mean that you can hit that speed at any given time. 

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Actual reality is Gear ratio related on the down hill issue. For example if you ever travel in mountainous terrain. You will see signs for Big trucks advising on the downhill travel use low gears. 

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View PostCleverJoey1844-x, on 08 April 2021 - 06:04 PM, said:

Actual reality is Gear ratio related on the down hill issue. For example if you ever travel in mountainous terrain. You will see signs for Big trucks advising on the downhill travel use low gears. 

 

Yes, safer to allow the transmission and gears help maintain a slower pace so you are not on the brakes the entire way down the hill. If they just rest their foot on the brake at the top then they will be utilizing that runaway truck ramp a bit further down the roadway, LOL>





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