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bigpikle-x #1 Posted 08 April 2021 - 12:29 AM

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I got the Type 59-II, is the King Dragon worth getting at 196,000 Free XP?  I see it has a 130% [Edited: Free Crew] XP boost and a 0.17sec load advantage over the Type 59-II.  If you have both, do you notice a difference?  Used to see them a lot but they kind of disappeared.  

 


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In a word, no.  You would hardly notice the difference, apart from the horrible red colour the King Dragon gets!

 

PS:  The King Dragon gets a commander XP boost of 30%, not a Free XP boost.  FreeXP is the standard 5%



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Crew xp not free xp.

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View Postbigpikle-x, on 08 April 2021 - 12:29 AM, said:

I got the Type 59-II, is the King Dragon worth getting at 196,000 Free XP?  I see it has a 130% Free XP boost and a 0.17sec load advantage over the Type 59-II.  If you have both, do you notice a difference?  Used to see them a lot but they kind of disappeared.  

 

 

Type 59-II has more noticable advantages. IE Better engine power, better accuracy. 


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View PostTempest fox3-x, on 07 April 2021 - 07:02 PM, said:

 

Type 59-II has more noticable advantages. IE Better engine power, better accuracy. 

 

Have both. 59-II while being better than the mcdragon, doesnt look as cool as the mcdragon.


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animatethant-x #6 Posted 08 April 2021 - 03:59 AM

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Crew xp is wasted post 6.0 imo. Everyone is usually maxed out, right?

I don't have the mcdragon but I played my first game in the 59-ii this morning. It's pretty good imo.

It's helping me erase the memories of the hype-59 which had such gun bloom issues it was brutal.

Derekthetree-x #7 Posted 08 April 2021 - 04:09 AM

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I'm a little disappointed in the Type 59-II (which I bought at 50% off before the earn op).

 

The standard pen is very low for a Tier 8, and even the heat pen is only 250.

The reload time is also quite long.

 

 



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T-54 is better

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Anybody spot if the mcdragon was more noticeable during the last TV test?

 

Just wondering with TV, was the mcdragon at a disadvantage.



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View PostIIBSWAT-x, on 08 April 2021 - 07:55 AM, said:

Anybody spot if the mcdragon was more noticeable during the last TV test?

 

Just wondering with TV, was the mcdragon at a disadvantage.

 

It stuck out like a sore thumb. 

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View PostDerekthetree-x, on 08 April 2021 - 04:09 AM, said:

I'm a little disappointed in the Type 59-II (which I bought at 50% off before the earn op).

 

The standard pen is very low for a Tier 8, and even the heat pen is only 250.

The reload time is also quite long.

 

 

 

200 isn't bad at all compared to the advantages it has, the problem is the devs don't get balance and have put the Draugen and Tier 8 Cent 7/1 in the game. Ravioli, T-34-3, STG, Bourrasque and Chimera all have high alpha low pen guns. I doubt we'll ever get the logic behind WGCB giving the Draugen and Earthshaker an L7 with 236 base pen and 210 HESH pen.

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View PostPhonicKitty8825-x, on 07 April 2021 - 11:36 PM, said:

T-54 is better

Wait. Are you trying to tell us a 9 is better than an 8? No way.



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View Postx_BAlN_x-p, on 08 April 2021 - 08:08 AM, said:

Wait. Are you trying to tell us a 9 is better than an 8? No way.

 


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bigpikle-x #14 Posted 08 April 2021 - 02:19 PM

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Thank you all for the feedback, much appreciated.  Since I already have the Type59-II from the earn OP, I will stick with that one.  Thanks again :)

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View PostOldRugger51-x, on 08 April 2021 - 05:20 AM, said:

 

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. 

 

10/10 would pick the t54 over the type 59ii ... Unless it was for silver earnings purposes.



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View Postbigpikle-x, on 08 April 2021 - 01:29 AM, said:

I got the Type 59-II, is the King Dragon worth getting at 196,000 Free XP?  I see it has a 130% [Edited: Free Crew] XP boost and a 0.17sec load advantage over the Type 59-II.  If you have both, do you notice a difference?  Used to see them a lot but they kind of disappeared.  

 

 

No. King Dragon is better crew trainer but Type 59 II is overall better tank. 

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View PostDerekthetree-x, on 08 April 2021 - 05:09 AM, said:

I'm a little disappointed in the Type 59-II 

 

The standard pen is very low for a Tier 8, and even the heat pen is only 250.

The reload time is also quite long.

 

 

That's called balance. 



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View Postbigpikle-x, on 08 April 2021 - 01:29 AM, said:

If you have both, do you notice a difference?  

 

Of course. One is a very fine looking tank (esp. with the Ranked Battle camo), the other a piece of frozen ugly.



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View PostIIBSWAT-x, on 08 April 2021 - 07:55 AM, said:

Anybody spot if the mcdragon was more noticeable during the last TV test?

 

Just wondering with TV, was the mcdragon at a disadvantage.

 

View PostTempest fox3-x, on 08 April 2021 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

It stuck out like a sore thumb. 

 

Last True Vision test, all my King Dragon games were excellent. And my best one was on snowy Malinovka! I find that belief the garish tanks are at a disadvantage to be a complete myth with this system. All my gawdy looking tanks performed well.

 

I was under the impression both tanks had the same stats apart from the crew XP bonus. I'm quite sure that's true for PC. This news that there are actual differences surprises me. They're supposed to be the same tank right?!



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View PostToxicBullbog-p, on 08 April 2021 - 05:39 AM, said:

 

200 isn't bad at all compared to the advantages it has, the problem is the devs don't get balance and have put the Draugen and Tier 8 Cent 7/1 in the game. Ravioli, T-34-3, STG, Bourrasque and Chimera all have high alpha low pen guns. I doubt we'll ever get the logic behind WGCB giving the Draugen and Earthshaker an L7 with 236 base pen and 210 HESH pen.

 

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