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Poll: 4 Man Platoon Test (106 members have cast votes)

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Would you like to see a 4 Man Platoon test?

  1. Yes (40 votes [37.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.74%

  2. No (66 votes [62.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.26%

Would you like 4 Man Platoon with Tank combination restrictions

  1. Yes (32 votes [30.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.19%

  2. No (74 votes [69.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.81%

Are you OK with Platoon restricting tank choice?

  1. yes (74 votes [69.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.81%

  2. no (32 votes [30.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.19%

Are you OK with longer wait times for large platoons to find balanced game?

  1. Yes (67 votes [63.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.21%

  2. No (39 votes [36.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.79%

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barudrow #21 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:05 PM

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Eliminate platoons all together. Problem solved.

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SprungNickel427 #22 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:09 PM

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View Postbarudrow-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:05 PM, said:

Eliminate platoons all together. Problem solved.

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sure. the lowest solution is the easiest. Thanks for your bottom feeder solutions. How come I didn't think of that.... very constructive and informative. 

Usain Salt #23 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:09 PM

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Keep it at 3

 

 

 

 


milesizdead #24 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:13 PM

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Yes, please. One of my friends stopped playing WoT because the platoon was always full when we managed to find a gaming slot in our grown up lives. For every good platoon there are five bad ones, so balance and mm don’t matter to me, nor should people use it as an excuse. Let people play together, that’s what gaming is all about. 

 


SprungNickel427 #25 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:14 PM

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View PostUsain Salt-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:09 PM, said:

Keep it at 3

 

If All things were known, I'd accept that answer. I just feel WG did no work to look at keeping 4 or 5 with restrictions. If they did, I'd like Paingod to share with us what they learnt and share the outcome. My bet is they didn't want to spend time and money changing matchmaker and cutting it down to 3 was cheap and easy. 

SprungNickel427 #26 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:15 PM

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View Postmilesizdead-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:13 PM, said:

Yes, please. One of my friends stopped playing WoT because the platoon was always full when we managed to find a gaming slot in our grown up lives. For every good platoon there are five bad ones, so balance and mm don’t matter to me, nor should people use it as an excuse. Let people play together, that’s what gaming is all about. 

 

This is my position, and technology, programming, should enable us to get there. I just want to know what was tried, vs what was cheap and easy. 

FluffyColt12271 #27 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:17 PM

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I feel quite strongly that co-op mode should be open to platoons up to size 15.

OldRugger51 #28 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:18 PM

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View PostUsain Salt-x, on 14 September 2021 - 12:09 PM, said:

Keep it at 3

 

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Leonidas SR71 #29 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:18 PM

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View PostSprungNickel427-x, on 14 September 2021 - 04:24 PM, said:

 

with CW already splitting pool of players 3 way and WWII, not an option. it's just naive thinking that that is a solution. 

 

What if the population increased?

 

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SprungNickel427 #30 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:18 PM

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View PostFluffyColt12271-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:17 PM, said:

I feel quite strongly that co-op mode should be open to platoons up to size 15.

 

I don't know how to respond to that as I've not played a single Co-OP game. isn't that all bots?

OldRugger51 #31 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:20 PM

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View Postbarudrow-x, on 14 September 2021 - 12:05 PM, said:

Eliminate platoons all together. Problem solved.

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Response from the "I have no friends" crowd... yeah, ok, thanks.

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SprungNickel427 #32 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:21 PM

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View PostLeonidas SR71-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:18 PM, said:

 

What if the population increased?

 

the game has grown some. looking at WOTC-Tracker on Twitter I see growth. I also see a churning of player base. but CW split the base into 4.

I feel the excuse of the population being too small is a red herring. I think the lack of restrictions, IE: programming, is the problem. 



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View PostOldRugger51-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:20 PM, said:

 

Response from the "I have no friends" crowd... yeah, ok, thanks.

 

com'on now we're all friends.... Solo play is part of my game play too. Not always in platoon myself, but if I look back at the fun times, it was in platoon. The shenanigans were real....

RaggaMuffinReap #34 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:25 PM

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View PostSprungNickel427-x, on 14 September 2021 - 04:58 PM, said:

Hurt, as in 3 man is filled quick and leaving folks out. on any night we'd easily have 5 in a party.  more than 5 was chaos but 3 now leaves out a couple friends. 

With 3 man we do a syncro deploy and battle each other as often as possible but effectively you get 6 people in a party in different battles and it is chaotic. 

 

My reason for bring this up is that the low road of 3 man was chosen rather than programming something allowing friends to play together. I never hear paingod talk about platoons with class restrictions. I never saw any questions asked around such restrictions and what to open the discussion. 

WG likes low hanging fruit. At first they built 5  man platoons into the game because friends want to play with friends, with a bad matchmaker. Then they cut the head off the snake because it was easy. Rather than rebuilding it with restrictions, or at least doing some work around how to make it work. I feel an executive decision was made as cheaply as possible. "limit it to 3" job done...poorly. 

 

LH... I'm sorry, what is LH?

 

Yes you may have a crowd thats always together, you need to be more inclusive. 

This is a clan and human issue, not a WG issue. 

You could even use a spare controller for a "straw man" to make a lobby, groupchats, clubs

 

Toons stack the deck, even a 2 man toon will average high 50s - 60% WR on a sesh

Stop asking WG to allow you to stack the deck



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View PostSprungNickel427-x, on 14 September 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

 

com'on now we're all friends.... Solo play is part of my game play too. Not always in platoon myself, but if I look back at the fun times, it was in platoon. The shenanigans were real....

 

As an angry, old curmudgeon sometimes I get.....uh....angrier.

 

I could say only some of us have friends, but I will not cuz that would be mean. 


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Restless_Vermin #36 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:30 PM

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I think this needs to be closed

SprungNickel427 #37 Posted 14 September 2021 - 05:31 PM

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33 Vote Summary 

Q1) 2:1 opposing a 4 man test. Interesting... Is that people don't want bigger platoons or people don' want broken platoons.... 

Q2) severe objection to tank restrictions in platoon.... could that be a poorly phrased question. I meant no 4 of the same vs 4 different classes need.... maybe a bad question

Q3) opposite to Q2 where we have restrictions winning. So To me this is a phrasing issue. I feel this is an expression of 3 man arty platoon hate.... restrict 3 of anything together... let alone 4 of same thing platooning together. 

Q4) Longer wait times is a wash. I knew all along that I personally would be fine to have my 5 man platoon wait longer in que to get a fair game matched to our 5 tanks. It prove to me that the change from 5 to 3 was not due to wait times. 



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View PostSprungNickel427-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:21 PM, said:

 

the game has grown some. looking at WOTC-Tracker on Twitter I see growth. I also see a churning of player base. but CW split the base into 4.

I feel the excuse of the population being too small is a red herring. I think the lack of restrictions, IE: programming, is the problem. 

I think that the size of the population is the main issue. It highlights the gap in the skill level, especially in higher tiers, and spits out crappy mm with regard to vehicle class and platoons. Resulting in higher skilled platoons dominating high tiers , and less skilled vets clubbing in low tiers.


Edited by Leonidas SR71-x, 14 September 2021 - 05:34 PM.

 

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View PostRaggaMuffinReap-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:25 PM, said:

 

Yes you may have a crowd thats always together, you need to be more inclusive. 

This is a clan and human issue, not a WG issue. 

You could even use a spare controller for a "straw man" to make a lobby, groupchats, clubs

 

Toons stack the deck, even a 2 man toon will average high 50s - 60% WR on a sesh

Stop asking WG to allow you to stack the deck

 

I see you are for zero platoons then and feel stats are more important than fun... I hear you. I don't agree but I hear you. I want a better solution. I want to know that this is the best solution. I get that WG, as a business, will make economic decisions, and 5 to 3 man change was a cheaper economic decision and not a better decision. They didn't  or wouldn't dedicate the resources to investigate a best solution. It is not a business priority for them. 

As far as stopping to ask WG anything. As a customer, I feel I can ask...anything. As a player, I want a great experience...not stacking the deck. you seem to limit your vision to any platoon is broken. Don't give up hope....

I don't understand your spare controller straw man thing... 



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View PostOldRugger51-x, on 14 September 2021 - 05:27 PM, said:

 

As an angry, old curmudgeon sometimes I get.....uh....angrier.

 

I could say only some of us have friends, but I will not cuz that would be mean. 

 

there's hope for you yet, as you quote Carlin and Wright. Legends. 




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