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Schiavoser #1 Posted 14 January 2022 - 03:09 AM

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I just unlocked and bought the Manticore. A week or two ago I unlocked and bought the AMX 13 105. I thought the GSOR was quite good, and likewise the AMX 13 90 was enjoyable. 

 

Seems logical that the Tier X should be more enjoyable, but that is not the case so far. The rate of fire on the Manticore is way too slow. AMX 13 105 is strangely hard to maneuver. Neither tank's predecessor had such flaws. I have very little experience still. But it's just strange to feel like you downgraded when you upgraded.



Derekthetree #2 Posted 14 January 2022 - 04:07 AM

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105 is definitely worse than the 90 for me too. I like the Manticore, but really didn't get on with the GSOR, too tippy.

 

Underwhelming Tier Xs after strong Tier 9s for me were E100 and 30B.



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Some others where I think the tier 9 is better, tier-for-tier

 

E75 > E100

OBJ704 > OBJ 268

JagdTiger > JPE100 (in terms of consistency)

 



Dyslexsticks #4 Posted 14 January 2022 - 07:25 AM

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A lot of tier 10s are just basically like tier 9s with a bigger healthpool, bar TDs.

XT356 #5 Posted 14 January 2022 - 07:33 AM

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View PostDyslexsticks, on 14 January 2022 - 01:25 AM, said:

A lot of tier 10s are just basically like tier 9s with a bigger healthpool, bar TDs.

 

That is not true at all. Look at the French arty. It gets an auto loader. 


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dzhey43 #6 Posted 14 January 2022 - 07:38 AM

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What did you expected? Roll top tier and seal club those 9 and 8? They still need chances to defend and fight back.
 

Haukkis #7 Posted 14 January 2022 - 08:53 AM

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Wt auf E100. Biggest disappointed at tier X... and I played this vehicle back in 2016 when it was it's unnerfed state. Object 268 V4 is another horrible disappointment but for different reasons.

Haukkis #8 Posted 14 January 2022 - 08:54 AM

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View PostDyslexsticks, on 14 January 2022 - 08:25 AM, said:

A lot of tier 10s are just basically like tier 9s with a bigger healthpool, bar TDs.

 

You have a point.  +1

Dyslexsticks #9 Posted 14 January 2022 - 09:18 AM

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That being said the Grille 15 just doesn't listen to me

XT356 #10 Posted 14 January 2022 - 09:28 AM

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View PostDyslexsticks, on 14 January 2022 - 03:18 AM, said:

That being said the Grille 15 just doesn't listen to me

 

Have you tried speaking to it in german?


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Dyslexsticks #11 Posted 14 January 2022 - 09:33 AM

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View PostXT356, on 14 January 2022 - 09:28 AM, said:

 

Have you tried speaking to it in german?

 

Tsk, you're right.

 

I really should've known better.



XT356 #12 Posted 14 January 2022 - 09:42 AM

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View PostDyslexsticks, on 14 January 2022 - 03:33 AM, said:

 

Tsk, you're right.

 

I really should've known better.

 

Das ist gut, sprehe deutsch meinen freundin. Deutsh ist liebe, deutsh ist lieben.


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PhonicKitty8825 #13 Posted 14 January 2022 - 01:23 PM

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View PostXT356, on 14 January 2022 - 09:42 AM, said:

 

Das ist gut, sprehe deutsch meinen freundin. Deutsh ist liebe, deutsh ist lieben.

That's good, speak German mine girlfriend. German is love, German is to love.


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XT356 #14 Posted 14 January 2022 - 01:30 PM

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View PostPhonicKitty8825, on 14 January 2022 - 07:23 AM, said:

That's good, speak German mine girlfriend. German is love, German is to love.

 

First things first, I am NOT your girl friend, second things second, you are a budget slav. From the discount soviet store.
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PhonicKitty8825 #15 Posted 14 January 2022 - 01:40 PM

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View PostXT356, on 14 January 2022 - 01:30 PM, said:

 

First things first, I am NOT your girl friend, second things second, you are a budget slav. From the discount soviet store.

Lol, I only translated what you said. As for the second part, yes, and I'm proud of it


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Schiavoser #16 Posted 14 January 2022 - 03:21 PM

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View PostDyslexsticks, on 14 January 2022 - 02:25 AM, said:

A lot of tier 10s are just basically like tier 9s with a bigger healthpool, bar TDs.

 

In the case of lights and mediums, the Tier X is almost always faster and more agile -- the AMX 13 105 apparently being an exception. The relatively poor maneuverability on this tank really compromises the play style I got used to at Tier IX and expected to continue at Tier X.

 

To a lesser degree and in my very limited experience, the Manticore also cannot be played like the Tier IX. I could be more aggressive at times in the GSOR and get multiple shots on a target. Seems like I need to be more conservative and snipe more often.

 

 



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The Manticore is a monster of a tank. Has a higher MoE requirement than the absurd CS-63 last time WG posted figures of them.

It's not an easy tank to play, but once you figure it out it's great.

As for the Topic at hand, Sturmtiger. No bloody clue how to play it effectively.

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View PostSchiavoser, on 13 January 2022 - 09:09 PM, said:

I just unlocked and bought the Manticore. A week or two ago I unlocked and bought the AMX 13 105. I thought the GSOR was quite good, and likewise the AMX 13 90 was enjoyable. 

 

Seems logical that the Tier X should be more enjoyable, but that is not the case so far. The rate of fire on the Manticore is way too slow. AMX 13 105 is strangely hard to maneuver. Neither tank's predecessor had such flaws. I have very little experience still. But it's just strange to feel like you downgraded when you upgraded.

 

The AMX 13-105 has its moments too. However it was nerfed when it did not really require it. Supposedly because it did better than the rest.

 

Like any other tank, if you like it enough to persevere, you will eventually get the hang of it and find out that it can work quite well.


 

 


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Dont grind the STRV103-O. The “O” is in reference to that alien character on the movie “Home” that everyone avoided. The STRV tier 10 is not great. Tier 8 is really good, then 9 and 10….. O you got one of those? Sorry what a waste of time

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View PostKlutchstone6, on 14 January 2022 - 06:41 PM, said:

Dont grind the STRV103-O. The “O” is in reference to that alien character on the movie “Home” that everyone avoided. The STRV tier 10 is not great. Tier 8 is really good, then 9 and 10….. O you got one of those? Sorry what a waste of time

 

Degrading accuracy as you go from the UDES to the 9 and 10 only makes sense to me as a means of balancing out the very high base pen.

 

Otherwise...why?






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