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HighSpyker #21 Posted 24 May 2014 - 11:11 PM

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40mm Hurricane.  Growing up just a few miles from the battleship Alabama, though, I always loved the B-25 displayed there.

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Mines the IIyushin Il-2 Sturmovik was a complete beast as a tank killer but also good at taking on Henschel Hs 126 and 129s in air to air combat which is quite a feat given how heavy an Il-2 is with all the amour plating it carried.

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glad they are not in the game artillary is bad enough lol.

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Stuka.  Can anyone stack up against Hans Rudels 519 tanks destroyed record?

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There is a distinct lack of French aircraft being mentioned here so I'll throw one into the mix. The Breguet 690 "Guppy" was a French twin engined bomber used in an AT role. It was armed with a 20mm HS.404 cannon, 2 7.5mm MAC 1934 machine guns and could carry one 460kg (1,014 lb) bomb. Not extremely powerful in terms of offensive capabilities but it could easily have handled most early war tanks.

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View PostWidowMaker1711, on 24 May 2014 - 02:27 PM, said:

 

Remember reading an article about RAAF Mitchells attacking Rabaul, Not sure uf they were 75mm armed, and just decimating the ships at dock and the port.

I think they were variants based on the  USMC PBJ   w/ 12 or 14 fixed mounted .50's in nose, and, conformaly mounted on fusalage And they were the supports for the 25G/H's w/37mm. Truly devastating.


 

                


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View PostLURKINGPANCAKE, on 25 May 2014 - 04:17 AM, said:

I think they were variants based on the  USMC PBJ   w/ 12 or 14 fixed mounted .50's in nose, and, conformaly mounted on fusalage And they were the supports for the 25G/H's w/37mm. Truly devastating.

 

12 or 14 ma deuce pointing at you??? That gun is an immortal. Its knocking on 100 years old nearly in conception


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Having to pick my fav WWII aircraft, is kinda like picking my favorite oxygen molecule- theyre just all so great!!!

 

  Not in any order:

     Tempest

      P39J

      P47D/M

      IL2

      Mosquito

             I gotta stop now!! And watch " The battle of Britain " . Followed by that movie when they attack a POW prison using Mosguitos, the treetop( or even lower ) footage is just amazing. I thought NOE was fun in a helo, cripes a mighty doing 400+mph that low would be `gasmicaly terrorfying:playing:


 

                


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If you are speaking tank busters. Maybe we should narrow it down to aircraft designed specifically with killing tanks in mind. That leaves a few less options. I have always had a special place in my heart for the ju87g with its twin 37s(the one hans rudel managed to kill more tanks than anyone else with), but for just being a straight beast I would take the hs 129. It had 3(!!!) inch glass to protect its cockpit. Hell it was even nicknamed the "panzerknacker" or tank cracker. I would personally say the only aircraft that would give it a run would be the IL-2(prefer the hs129 because of my german bias but im ok with that) think of these two aircraft as the a10 thunderbolts of their day.

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View PostDeath pod 69, on 25 May 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

Stuka.  Can anyone stack up against Hans Rudels 519 tanks destroyed record?

The famous tank in the sky :)

the guy had so much luck, survived a lot that would have killed others.

The hs129 may be the prototype plane for purpose tank killer but it was badly rush designed, it's instrument panel had to be mounted on engines as the forward pilot compartment was so tiny it can't fit all of them.

Ilyushin Il-2 is the most feared a nd famous ground attack plane in the war.

built in huge numbers even with known deadly mechanical flaws, this plane was made to fly with inexperienced pilots in the early days of the war. Eventually it managed to become wolf packs in the sky with dare devil raids against a German tank and supply columns. If ain't for the fact this plane can within stand more anti air gunfire than similar designs on the German side, it would have been less effective and formariable to the Germans. 

On the ground, the t34 had the credit, and in the air it was Ilyushin Il-2 that trade mark the struggle for ussr. 


That one bounced... WTF..not at 100m and not twice in a roll and not on the side of a Walfe-100 with a BL-10!!!

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View PostWidowMaker1711, on 24 May 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

 

12 or 14 ma deuce pointing at you??? That gun is an immortal. Its knocking on 100 years old nearly in conception

1916?? Right

  Yea a USMC PBJ crewman/Pacific theater/, worked for me a while back told some stories about those things. 8 or 10 in the nose and the 4 on the fusalage 2x a side, plus a 500lb`er if the temp/humidity was within operational limits for the aircraft. Air density is a big deal.

 

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View PostLURKINGPANCAKE, on 25 May 2014 - 04:43 AM, said:

1916?? Right

  Yea a USMC PBJ crewman/Pacific theater/, worked for me a while back told some stories about those things. 8 or 10 in the nose and the 4 on the fusalage 2x a side, plus a 500lb`er if the temp/humidity was within operational limits for the aircraft. Air density is a big deal.

 

500lb gp he. Just a little bit OVERKILL. 50 cal will decimate 1 inch plate steel easy.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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View PostWidowMaker1711, on 24 May 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

 

500lb gp he. Just a little bit OVERKILL. 50 cal will decimate 1 inch plate steel easy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea a little, " HOLE-ING " a runway of oppertunity is as good as downing a sqdn of aircraft. At least for a day or two.


 

                


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Always underrated but a very effective all weather close-as-possible-airsupport: Henschel 123.

 

Yeah. 123, the biplane! Obsolete since 1937, but serving very well til 44. 



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View PostHighSpyker, on 25 May 2014 - 12:11 AM, said:

40mm Hurricane. Growing up just a few miles from the battleship Alabama, though, I always loved the B-25 displayed there.

Agreed, the hurricane IID was damn good at ground support.



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From playing IL2 a few prefered aircraft  on full simulation.

 

Bristol Beaufighter

P47D

Ilyushin IL2

Mosquito

Messerschmitt bf 110

 

Favourite ground attack would be the jug at 550 mph or 880 kph top dive speed. loadout eight .50 calibre guns, 8/7.5 tube rockets, 2/500lbs bombs, and a long runway. In IL2 i was Pretty bad in arial combat so i was usualy designated bomber or ground attack. :sceptic:.

 

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View PostLURKINGPANCAKE, on 24 May 2014 - 11:34 PM, said:

Having to pick my fav WWII aircraft, is kinda like picking my favorite oxygen molecule- theyre just all so great!!!

 

  Not in any order:

     Tempest

      P39J

      P47D/M

      IL2

      Mosquito

             I gotta stop now!! And watch " The battle of Britain " . Followed by that movie when they attack a POW prison using Mosguitos, the treetop( or even lower ) footage is just amazing. I thought NOE was fun in a helo, cripes a mighty doing 400+mph that low would be `gasmicaly terrorfying:playing:

The Tempest was not a ground attack aircraft - you are thinking of the similar looking but very different Hawker Typhoon - the aircraft that carried the 8 rockets and 4x 20mm in the wings - used by the 2nd TAF in Europe in 1944

 

The Tempest was a development of the Typhoon with much thinner laminar flow wings and used to intercept and destroy V-1 bombs in the later stages of 1944.  Very fast and powerful the Tempest was at least a match for all but the

Me 262 jet fighter fielded by the Luftwaffe and if I'm not mistaken did face the jet in combat several times towards the war's end.

 


 

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Does Hans Ulrich Rudel count even though hes a person? lol. But i vote stukas. notorious dive bombers and could dog fight if needed. (though not recommended of course)

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View PostLasidora, on 29 May 2014 - 06:03 AM, said:

Does Hans Ulrich Rudel count even though hes a person? lol. But i vote stukas. notorious dive bombers and could dog fight if needed. (though not recommended of course)

 

Id love to see that dogfight. Its a big old bird with barn doors for wings. The example at the RAF Museum at Hendon is awesome. 


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View PostWidowMaker1711, on 29 May 2014 - 07:48 AM, said:

 

Id love to see that dogfight. Its a big old bird with barn doors for wings. The example at the RAF Museum at Hendon is awesome. 


they had the capabilities. just... they were not maneuverable enough to keep up with 90% of designated fighters lol. their fixed landing gear added alot of resistance. i was watching something on history channel once and they mentioned a few accounts of stukas downing other aircraft. dont think there was any footage seeing as it was a very rare occurance. they had 2 high powered mgs at the front an i think a gunner in the back.






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