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Whats the best(or just your favorite) SMG of WW2?


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Dennis420b #1 Posted 29 May 2014 - 04:10 PM

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The sub machine guns heyday was during WW2, largely being replaced by the assault rifle post war. Which one was the best? Which one would you have bet your life on in the heat of battle?

Its a hard one for me. Was close, but I have to go with the Italian Beretta Model 38. It was accurate out to 300 meters allowing it to be used as a carbine when needed. Durable and reliable. Much better IMHO than the stamped lead spitters used by most nations.

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CODhero101 #2 Posted 29 May 2014 - 04:12 PM

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I think I like the mp 40 a really good weapon by the germans

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Ppsh 41. My dad has one, really heavy.
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Uranprojekt #5 Posted 29 May 2014 - 07:46 PM

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Sten gun Mk II. I had to pick British because I'm biased.

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Lasidora #6 Posted 30 May 2014 - 04:46 AM

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Mp 40. or if you want to count the mp/stg 44 but that was technically an assault rifle that the russians jacked and turned into the AK

MegaB0B0 #7 Posted 30 May 2014 - 05:16 AM

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Mp44 ain't it the prototype for what's to come? 
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Slexlaw #8 Posted 30 May 2014 - 06:35 AM

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Owen gun. Aussie ingenuity.

Dennis420b #9 Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:59 AM

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View PostLasidora, on 29 May 2014 - 11:46 PM, said:

Mp 40. or if you want to count the mp/stg 44 but that was technically an assault rifle that the russians jacked and turned into the AK


Actually other than appearances (mostly do to the over the barrel location of the gas tube and the necessitated front sight arrangement due to this) the 2 guns have little in common internally. The StG 44 has an action more closely related to the modern  G3 and the MP5 and the AK uses a more conventional bolt design. Rolling vs. Tilting. The StG 44 is a engineering marvel, typical of the German over-engineered mold, where as the AK follows the simple and rugged philosophy of the Soviet Union. An AK can literally be stripped and cleaned by a 8 year old with a half hour training. The StG 44 is far more complex.



Dennis420b #10 Posted 30 May 2014 - 08:02 AM

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View PostSlexlaw, on 30 May 2014 - 01:35 AM, said:

Owen gun. Aussie ingenuity.


A yes the Owen gun. Top mounted magazines were all the rage during WW2. lol. A great jungle fighting weapon.



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The american M3A1grease gun

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Just for the hell of it what about the STG44 version with the bent barrel attachment to shoot round corners!

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I'm going to go hipster on this and say PPS42/43. A better usable less wasteful stamped steel weapon first mass produced while all hell was breaking loose around the makers in Leningrad.

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The "stamped steel lead spitter" is precisely what the subgun should be...still, I'd take the M2 Carbine, despite the wood stock.

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View PostKcKage88, on 29 May 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

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I'm with this guy. The 3 weapons I would have outfitted my front line regular army squads with were this, M1 and BAR mainly.


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View Postrainsilent, on 31 May 2014 - 03:13 AM, said:

 

I'm with this guy. The 3 weapons I would have outfitted my front line regular army squads with were this, M1 and BAR mainly.

Agree on the garand. The bar was too heavy with too small a magazine to be a proper support weapon, id go with an mg42 for better suppression.  Close in I would go with the ppsh43, high cyclic with excellnt reliability



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View PostNocturnal814, on 30 May 2014 - 10:32 PM, said:

Agree on the garand. The bar was too heavy with too small a magazine to be a proper support weapon, id go with an mg42 for better suppression.  Close in I would go with the ppsh43, high cyclic with excellnt reliability

 

Yet the BAR was lighter than the MG42 and only required 1 crew to at least 2 for the 42. Many that have shot the BAR have said that the only true drawback to the BAR is the fact that the barrel can't be changed when it overheats so it cant be used as a true suppression weapon. Due to these facts alone for squads I think the BAR is the best option. For defending positions I would want the MG42 hands down.


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Nocturnal814 #19 Posted 31 May 2014 - 03:26 AM

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The mg42 was also designed for one person operation if needed, as was the mg34,  hence the 75 rnd drums they carried and the bipod. Ill take the rof and suppression to keep defenders down any day

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View PostBrodeurFan30, on 29 May 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

 
Yep, the Thompson submachine gun. :glasses:

If you have ever handled a Thompson, the feeling of quality, durability, and craftsmanship is unmistakable.  Pick up a Tommy, a PPSH, a Sten, and Schmeisser, and after holding them for a minute or two you know which SMG you would want to go into battle with (at least I do).

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