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AJR568 #1 Posted 28 November 2014 - 10:56 AM

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M18 "Hellcat"

 

The M18 Hellcat sits at tier VI in a rather average TD line. There are two tanks that stick out, the T30, and the Hellcat. There is only 1 turd in the line (T28 Prototype), but otherwise a very solid line. The Hellcat breaks that "average" concept by being, far and away, the best tier VI TD. Looking at it's paper stats, the fact it only has 13mm of hull armour, "how can he say it's the best" is a warranted question. Let's take a look inside...

 

Recommended Equipment/Crew Skills (First 5)

Gun Ramer/Camo Net/Binocs. Camo paint is highly recommended!

Sixth + Camo + BiA + Recon + Situational Awareness

 

The Hellcat lives and dies by not being seen. It has a stellar base camo rating and a stellar base view range. Building on those two stats is critical to making sure your Hellcat can see at the max spotting range, and hide in the bushes and still fire.

 

Firepower (90mm AT Gun M3)

+ Solid alpha

+ Good accuracy/Aim time

+  Great base AP pen

+ Blatantly overpowered APCR shells (can shoot through the upper plates of King Tigers and IS-3's...)

+ Great gun depression (-10)

- Merely average rate of fire

- Loses significant camo when firing 

 

The Hellcat's 90mm is an absolutely superb weapon. It has good alpha, great pen, and good accuracy. The only thing not stellar about it is the reload, which is merely average and asking for more would just make it (more) over powered. The AP rounds are more than enough for the opposition the Hellcat sees, being 160pen and decent enough accuracy you can snipe weakspots on tier VIII heavies quite easily. However, who needs to aim when you have 243mm penetration on your APCR rounds? Let me make this clear: The Hellcat can shoot through the upper plates of tier VIII heavy tanks reliably with its APCR rounds... Keep in mind, tier VI TD... Because: Balance, amirite? The biggest downside of the gun isn't even directly related to the gun itself, but firing greatly diminishes your camo rating, so unless you have hard cover, have an escape route, or are out of view range even after firing, hold your shot.

 

Survivability

 

+ Stellar Camo rating

+ Open top allows for stellar view range

+ Gun mantlet is quite large and will bounce tier VIII TD shells if they're extremely unlucky.

- Anything that isn't the mantlet might as well not be there

- Low HP pool (570)

- Due to the lolbad armour arty can miss and still one shot you

- Extremely prone to idiots who just spam HE constantly.. -.-

 

The Hellcat's best defense is it's eyes and its stealth. Equipped with great view range (370 metres) and a cloaking device that would make the Romulans blush, the Hellcat is the best tier VIII VI tank at playing vision games. Most tanks in your tier will have to proximity detect you if you're in a dense bush, and when firing your gun 15 metres being a bush you still negate 50% of the opponents view range. The Hellcat will out spot light tanks easily. When (if) you get spotted be sure to move, and move fast. Every gun points at a Hellcat because it's a soft target, and arty/KV-2 doesn't even need to hit you to one shot you. Yet, despite the tank being made out of sheet metal, I have a steel wall in it, and that is because the gun mantlet of the Hellcat is the most troll piece of steel in the entire game. This gun mantlet has bounced IS-3 and Rhmt. Borsig shells. By no means am I saying it's a tier VI T29 in terms of hull down, but peeking over hills can be done to get lucky bounces.

 

Mobility

 

+ One one the fastest tanks in the game (72kp/h speed limit)

+ Fast reverse speed

- Somewhat poor acceleration

- Bad Hull/turret traverse makes cornering hard and makes circling all but TD's impossible

 

The Hellcat has an amazing top speed which allows for great scouting positions early in the game before you fall back to actually be a TD again. This speed allows the Hellcat to get out of trouble quickly and is never out of the fight. However, that speed is a double edged sword as young Hellcat drivers will get into heaps of trouble early on. The Traverse is also a low point as well, not being very good and bleeding the Hellcat of speed in turns.. I guess WG doesn't want my TD being a better medium than most mediums... We'll just have to settle for it being a better TD and light than anything at tier VI... Dangit...

 

Compared to the Field

 

+ Great, reliable, non-derpy gun with blatantly broken APCR

+ Great scoutability and camo

+ Great mobility to take aggressive positions to force OpFor into a defensive game very early on.

- No armour outside of RNG based gun mantlet.

 

Summary

 

The Hellcat is the best tier VI tank in the game, bar none. It can dominate in tier VI, VII, and VIII, still be competitive in tier IX games, and even be more useful than T28's, T28 Prototype's, and T95's in tier X games. This tank has it all. Who needs armour when you can out spot everything in tier and have a camo rating so high you can be 60 metres away from OpFor and still be unspotted? Get this tank in a bush, spot half the enemy team, and just go H.A.M. with the stellar 90mm gun while cloaked, only moving when you get spotted or you've feasted upon everything in front of you. The Hellcat is just simply a beast...

 

Oh, and WGA, plz don't nerf it... after all, it has "Cat" in the name... Hey, what're you doing with that nerf bat... dammit...

 

I also have another guide on the E-100check that out if you need help with your Fascist box tank.

 


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KuroFelidae #2 Posted 28 November 2014 - 11:11 AM

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Longest post you ever done! lol

 

Nice OP though. Lots of info :)


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AJR568 #3 Posted 28 November 2014 - 11:13 AM

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View Posta flappin cod, on 28 November 2014 - 05:11 AM, said:

Longest post you ever done! lol

 

Nice OP though. Lots of info :)

Nope, the E-100 one was longer.


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KuroFelidae #4 Posted 28 November 2014 - 11:16 AM

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View PostAJR568, on 28 November 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

Nope, the E-100 one was longer.

Oh btw juts noticed but the Hellcat is second fastest I believe. Pretty sure the Pz I c is faster.


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Oh hey, a thread where your trademarked tag is applicable. 

 

But seriously, nice read AJ.  How long did it take you to type that all up?


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View Posta flappin cod, on 28 November 2014 - 05:16 AM, said:

Oh btw juts noticed but the Hellcat is second fastest I believe. Pretty sure the Pz I c is faster.

 

Tied at 72kp/h. The Engine we're using doesn't permit self propulsion faster than 72 I believe. 

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View PostStormIllusion, on 28 November 2014 - 05:17 AM, said:

Oh hey, a thread where your trademarked tag is applicable. 

 

But seriously, nice read AJ.  How long did it take you to type that all up?

Not my sig. It's used by a PC forumer by the name of Garbad who helped me get a lot better through his guides, so I use it as somewhat of homage to him with my guides as well as make the arty lovers here mad. lol

 

It took about 20 minutes, and thank you.

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dI Atticus Ib #8 Posted 28 November 2014 - 11:22 AM

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I would say its the best tier 6 it's a tie between the Hellcat and the Nashorn for me lol

 


 

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View PostAJR568, on 28 November 2014 - 11:18 AM, said:

 

Tied at 72kp/h. The Engine we're using doesn't permit self propulsion faster than 72 I believe.

Hmm weird. Maybe just PC then. I could have sworn it was 79 lol.


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True the Nashorn is devastating. Although the Hellcat is more flexible I think which allows it otbe a bit more useful in higher tier games.

 

 


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View PostdI Atticus Ib, on 28 November 2014 - 05:22 AM, said:

I would say its the best tier 6 it's a tie between the Hellcat and the Nashorn for me lol

 

The Nashorn doesn't have the camo rating IMO... It gets spotted and obliterated easily. Plus, the Hellcat at least has a snowball's chance of bouncing something off that gun mantlet. lol. But to each their own. GG, man. 


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View PostAJR568, on 28 November 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:

The Nashorn doesn't have the camo rating IMO... It gets spotted and obliterated easily. Plus, the Hellcat at least has a snowball's chance of bouncing something off that gun mantlet. lol. But to each their own. GG, man. 

 

I agree lol here's a hellcat kicking [edited]in a tier 10 game lol

 


 

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243 pen with APCR?

thats just ridiculous


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View PostdI Atticus Ib, on 28 November 2014 - 05:28 AM, said:

 

I agree lol here's a hellcat kicking [edited]in a tier 10 game lol

 

I did that same thing earlier today. I did better than most X's. I even got to kill an E-50M... LOL. Wonder if he was mad? xD


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Great post. 

I was expecting to look at this thread and all you had put in waa

THE HELLCAT IS AMAZING lol. 


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View PostNicholas Sapien, on 28 November 2014 - 05:29 AM, said:

243 pen with APCR?

thats just ridiculous balanced

FTFY. :hiding:


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View PostLEEFERNEE, on 28 November 2014 - 05:30 AM, said:

Great post. 

I was expecting to look at this thread and all you had put in waa

THE HELLCAT IS AMAZING lol. 

 

Nah. I take these somewhat seriously, so I try and be as informative as possible. I take pride in these guides. lol.

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View PostAJR568, on 28 November 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

 

Nah. I take these somewhat seriously, so I try and be as informative as possible. I take pride in these guides. lol.

 

like how you put somewhat seriously lol. 

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View PostLEEFERNEE, on 28 November 2014 - 05:38 AM, said:

 

like how you put somewhat seriously lol. 

I will be on tonight if you fancy pplatooning?  Need to get as many games in before your next ban:trollface:

I insert humour where I can. lol

 

I will take you up on that offer. And I'm not sending hate mail anymore.. I went through withdrawal.. not fun... 


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Thanks for the guide :)





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