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Vicaring45LC #1 Posted 01 February 2015 - 12:08 AM

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So I've been thinking, and yeah, I know what the doctor said about that.

 

The tier 10 American medium is the M48A1 Patton.

 

But the 105mm cannon it has was only on the M48A5 Patton, which was only introduced as an upgrade after and because of the introduction of the M60A1 Patton, which had it. So, if the M48 in the game has the gun from the M60 that's NOT in the game, then why could we not have both the M48A1 AND M60A1 Patton (both coming off of the M46)?

 

But that's ridiculous, you say. They're practically the same tank. True. But I have a solution, and said solution also removes that whole "why do I have to research modules when it's a tier 10?" thing.

 

The M60A1 Patton would be much the same as the current M48 in the game but come with the 105mm standard (no more researching).

 

The M48A1 Patton would only have a 90mm.

 

I know, I can hear you guys gasp in shock and horror. But hear me out.

 

The M48A1 Patton would fire the M332 HVAP (APCR) standard. That would solve most of the low-penetration issue. It would fire M431 HEAT (300mm penetration @ 0 degrees) as premium. But the gun-handling would be wicked sweet. I'm talking a Rate of Fire half again as much as the T-62, in order to make up for the low alpha.

 

Why? Why would you suggest such a thing, Vicar?

 

Because reasons.

 

And because we don't have any non-autoloading fast-firing tanks at tier 10, and this would be a historically-accurate solution. It would be unique.

 

And because the M60A1 was introduced before the Leopard 1, before the STB-1, before the (soon-to-be-implemented in WoT PC) AMX 30B and was one of the most widely-used tanks in the world for 25-ish years, and deserves to be in the game in a non-Clan Wars gift way, and would be one more thing to differentiate this game from WoT PC.



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Sounds good! The thought of rustling some PC jimmies sounds fun fo sho.

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the M60 is already in the PC version though....its a Premium award tank

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View PostSnipersLaww, on 31 January 2015 - 07:29 PM, said:

the M60 is already in the PC version though....its a Premium award tank

 

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I believe I already answered that point, gentlemen. It was in the last sentence of the proposal.

 

This tank was too important a tank to only go to Clan Wars winners. It should be in the game nice and proper like.



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He mentions that in the bottom of the post. He is saying that while PC may only have it as a cw rewards tank, we could have it as a tech tree tank.

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I don't like the idea of a 240 damage gun at Tier 10.

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So a low caliber fast firing gun at tier X? haven't the Russians already got 4 of those, that's including the Object 907.


And what would the point of it be anyway? 


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View PostIcesev, on 31 January 2015 - 06:35 PM, said:

I don't like the idea of a 240 damage gun at Tier 10.

 

So long as the DPM (and penetration, of course) were competitive, I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

It'd be a 90mm machinegun of doom.

 



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View PostMatthew Vicar, on 01 February 2015 - 12:40 AM, said:

 

So long as the DPM (and penetration, of course) were competitive, I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

It'd be a 90mm machinegun of doom.

 

 

But the problem consists, you have to expose yourself to use that DPM to it's fullest extent and 240 alpha isn't going to annoy an already pissed off E-100 who wants you dead.

 

T-54 and the like can get away with it due to the ridiculous turrets and low profile.



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View PostMajor Fulcrum, on 31 January 2015 - 07:42 PM, said:

 

But the problem consists, you have to expose yourself to use that DPM to it's fullest extent and 240 alpha isn't going to annoy an already pissed off E-100 who wants you dead.

 

T-54 and the like can get away with it due to the ridiculous turrets and low profile.

 

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That's what they say about tier 5s using the 6-lber too. Yet it works there. It'd work here. Give it brilliant soft-stats for shooting on the move.

 

There are ways to make it work, and it would allow this game to introduce a historically accurate and much-used real-world tank to the game.

 

You say there are 4 Russian tanks like that? No. There is 1 Russian tank like that, and 3 Russian prototypes.

 

Some people like to play tanks that actually existed. This would allow it.



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Interesting idea, I like it.

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I should neg you for the obscenely misleading tags.  

 

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View PostFledBasher, on 31 January 2015 - 07:19 PM, said:

I should neg you for the obscenely misleading tags.  

 

Bait and switch is wrong and punishment should be swift. 

 

I was considering also using: Lay Lady Lay, Norwegian Wood, Paul is Dead, and Save Me Captain America.

 

Also: Pancakes.

 

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View PostMatthew Vicar, on 31 January 2015 - 08:21 PM, said:

 

I was considering also using: Lay Lady Lay, Norwegian Wood, Paul is Dead, and Save Me Captain America.

 

Also: Pancakes.

 

And Flatterpuss.

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I think the idea is solid but 240 alpha isn't very serviceable.

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Maybe instead of having 240 alpha it could work like the 122mm guns work for the russians, the tier 7 gun has 390 alpha like on the IS, but the tier 10 has an alpha of 440 like on the IS-4. So maybe they could bump up the alpha to something like 290 or 300 but thats to close to the T62As alpha.

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Then it would be either

A. Make the Russian meds inferior.
B. Be worse than the Russian meds.

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View PostIcesev, on 31 January 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Then it would be either

A. Make the Russian meds inferior.
B. Be worse than the Russian meds.

Yeah you bring a very good point.


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