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LordGrayHawk #1 Posted 06 February 2015 - 05:40 PM

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Ok, it’s not really a big deal.  But it is interesting and that is why I have it.  It is the BUTEPANZER M4A2 75.  An American M4 Sherman with German markings.  How can this be you might ask.  Well, first let me just say that the M4 Sherman was provided to many of our allies, there is even a Russian variant fitted with the same 7.62 cm gun found on the T-34.  France was also provided with the M4 Sherman.  
The Wehrmacht captured its first Shermans in Tunisia and shipped them back to Germany for the Army Weapons Office to examine. 
The greatest numbers of Sherman tanks, though, fell into German hands in France after the 1944 invasion. Many units were able to set up a captured tank unit and equip it with Shermans. The use of this tank is documented for the 21st Panzer Division (four tanks), 25th Panzer Grenadier Division (four), the 10th SS Panzer Division "Frundsberg" (ten), Panzer Brigade 150 (ten), and the 5th Parachute Jager Division (six). There were individual tanks in many other units. 
In August of 1944, the Captured Tank Company 281 established a platoon of five Sherman tanks (with 7.5 cm guns) that had been captured in Russia. 
Among the German troops, the Sherman tank with the 7.5 cm gun was known as the "Sherman short" and the type with the 7.6 cm gun as the "Sherman long." 
On March 31, 1945, the Panzer Company "Berka" was set up, using the tanks of the Berka Test Center. It had three Jagdpanzer 38 tanks (one of them with a recoilless gun), one Panzer IV, two Panzer III, two Sherman short and one Sherman long. When the unit was established, each of the Sherman tanks carried 50 rounds of ammunition.

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GORGE ROMERO #2 Posted 06 February 2015 - 05:43 PM

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Go play WT, they already have it as a German premium :trollface: P.S. [edited]war thunder 

 


Sargento S #3 Posted 06 February 2015 - 06:02 PM

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Interesting....... 

View PostGORGE ROMERO, on 06 February 2015 - 09:43 AM, said:

Go play WT, they already have it as a German premium :trollface: P.S. [edited]war thunder 

 

Interesting....... :arta:

Matthew J35U5 #4 Posted 06 February 2015 - 06:37 PM

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If you want some nice irony, I saw a picture of an Isreali-modified Sherman being used in a film to represent a German tank. 

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CapnLeftHook #5 Posted 06 February 2015 - 07:06 PM

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GORGE ROMERO #6 Posted 06 February 2015 - 07:11 PM

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View PostCapnLeftHook, on 06 February 2015 - 07:06 PM, said:

Lolol wut?


 


CapnLeftHook #7 Posted 06 February 2015 - 07:18 PM

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View PostGORGE ROMERO, on 06 February 2015 - 07:11 PM, said:

Lolol wut?

 

Ha didn't realize I posted that picture, I've got one of a German Sherman somewhere in my gallery and like a dope I put that instead. Derp, oh whale

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CapnLeftHook #8 Posted 06 February 2015 - 07:51 PM

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Same tank as above, just the actual pictures I was looking for. 

 

This one was used as a recovery vehicle


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This is sorta off-topic, but ingame I refer to my PZ IV as the "German Sherman" due to its similar playstyle, size, stats, Tech-tree position, versatility in Guns, etc....

 

 

Cool article though :)



MushinWolf #10 Posted 20 February 2015 - 09:04 PM

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Interesting article :)...wonder how many of these Shermans ended up like some of the unfortunate german marked up T-34's..and the friendly fire incidents..
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Unico Elemento #11 Posted 21 February 2015 - 06:37 AM

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If friendly fire didn't get them, then the Allies would have. Some of the balkenkreuz that some of the captured Shermans sported to avoid friendly fire definitely look like perfect target markers for the Allies.

 

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TKoddaL33 #12 Posted 26 February 2015 - 06:36 PM

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Well, if I'm not mistaken they did use these captured vehicles as a tactic to get through Allied defensive lines dressed up in Allied uniforms as well.

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Stuka87 89 #13 Posted 26 February 2015 - 07:02 PM

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How about the German KV-1 and  KV-2


 

     


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CIA Lizard #14 Posted 26 February 2015 - 07:08 PM

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I would like to see a "German Sherman" premium tank, like the T-34-88.

Sgt Bull 1943 #15 Posted 26 February 2015 - 07:47 PM

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I was reading an article in a WW II magazine about japanese capturing Shermans, lees & Stuarts , using them against the allies . I can't find pictures . Maybe someone could help with that ? 

The Sexy Sergal #16 Posted 27 February 2015 - 06:25 AM

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View PostCapnLeftHook, on 06 February 2015 - 02:51 PM, said:

Same tank as above, just the actual pictures I was looking for. 

 

This one was used as a recovery vehicle

 

looking at these Sherman's they are Captured Firefly's , those are OQF 17 Pounders you can tell because of the huge bussle box on the back of the turret
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View PostWAFFLESSXXX007, on 27 February 2015 - 01:25 AM, said:

 

looking at these Sherman's they are Captured Firefly's , those are OQF 17 Pounders you can tell because of the huge bussle box on the back of the turret

 

That's what I was thinking too. The tip of the gun barrel as well.

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Cammy1RHF #18 Posted 27 February 2015 - 03:55 PM

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2 A13 cruisers prior to the start of Barbarossa, both were converted to flamm units


Edited by cammy1970, 27 February 2015 - 03:57 PM.

 


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Cool A13 pics!...I think id want to be in them even less than the Sherman though!!:confused:

 


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Lol yeah early war British armour and fire is not a good combination!

 






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