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Why is pershing's win rate so low?

Started by rhymeswithN00bs, Mar 26 2015 10:02 PM
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rhymeswithN00bs #1 Posted 26 March 2015 - 10:02 PM

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Why is the expected w/r in the pershing only 51% and my own w/r is only 49%? I'm a capable pershing driver and I like to think I bring more good things to my team than bad, but no, apparently I am garbage and having me on your team means we're at a slight disadvantage. :( I don't understand how that could be. My overall w/r is 56%.

 

 

My theory is maybe the pershing is weighted too heavily in mm. Does anyone else agree or have a different theory?

 

Are there any other tanks that have low expected w/r? Couldn't that indicate that something was out of balance? (Maybe this is why the pershing got a pen buff)


 

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Considering your damage and kill ratios are both fairly positive, I'd say you're doing fine.  Chalk it up to crappy teams.

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View PostMobius Y, on 26 March 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

Considering your damage and kill ratios are both fairly positive, I'd say you're doing fine.  Chalk it up to crappy teams.

 

But maybe every time I take my pershing out for a game I already have the deck stacked against me. That doesn't seem fair (to my teammates if anyone...)

 

And yes, lots of crappy teams.


 

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Been awhile but I loved my Pershing back in the day, may have to repurchase & see what's up. 

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I had the same issue with my WT Pz IV.

51% win rate, 58% overall.


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Mine is 59% after 130 games

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It seems that the Pershing is an underestimated tank in general. I personally enjoyed it and will get one again at some point. Statistically you're doing better than most outside of your W/L. Hard to tell what's holding you back though...

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Loved it but didnt win all that much in it....but I'm not that good anyway..

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Maybe the expected win rate expects the Pershing driver to be using premium rounds a lot? I know the premium on the Pershing has a huge pen advantage over the standard AP so not using it a lot may be handicapping you stats wise. 

 

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My STA-1 and Type 61 win rates are really bad. My stats aren't the greatest with them though.

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When I got done with the Pershing grind, I looked and had a 55%+ win rate and I decided to keep it. I don't have huge damage numbers in it though?
 

I tend to use it as a scout first.  

 


Guess I had the opposite experience than the OP.


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Anything 50% and above is decent in my eyes. I'd shove a KV-2's 152mm up my hind end and pull the trigger to stay in the 50% and above range, lol! :P

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I have my highest win rate in the Pershing, 68%, almost all solo. It was very early in release tho and I was a beta player, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.

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View PostPit Friend, on 26 March 2015 - 05:14 PM, said:

Maybe the expected win rate expects the Pershing driver to be using premium rounds a lot? I know the premium on the Pershing has a huge pen advantage over the standard AP so not using it a lot may be handicapping you stats wise. 

 

Just a thought. 

 

I use a ton of premium when it's tier 9 or 10. :hiding: I'm surprised I haven't gotten hate mail yet...

 

I couldn't care less about my w/r I'm just wondering if it's handicapping my teams. I was just on a team with 2 pershings--maybe that's even worse. And I notice in the team roster the pershing seems to be weighted higher than some other tanks that seem stronger. The t20 plays similarly and its expected w/r is ~55% and my w/r is 61% and my average damage isn't even as good (ratio to expected) as in the pershing.


 

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View PostrhymeswithN00bs, on 26 March 2015 - 09:22 PM, said:

 

I use a ton of premium when it's tier 9 or 10. :hiding: I'm surprised I haven't gotten hate mail yet...

 

I couldn't care less about my w/r I'm just wondering if it's handicapping my teams. I was just on a team with 2 pershings--maybe that's even worse. And I notice in the team roster the pershing seems to be weighted higher than some other tanks that seem stronger. The t20 plays similarly and its expected w/r is ~55% and my w/r is 61% and my average damage isn't even as good (ratio to expected) as in the pershing.

 

The team list is sorted by Tier, then Class, then Alphabetical Order.

 

This demands the Pershing to be repurchased! Can I get a loan of silver from someone? XD

 

My stats are only a little better than yours in my Pershing, and I was still a solo artist back then. I would say that leaves it up to bad teams. I'm hopefully going to be buying back my Pershing and T-44 soon so that I have some non Tier 8 Premiums to play. 

 

If you want to decypher iit, take a sample of games.. 20 - 50 at least, and track your stats through all of them while you're in a platoon. See if they match up with your stats overall in it. Of course improvement will show if they're better too, but the W/R will give you a good idea of if it was caused by you or by teams.


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View PostF4NA7IC, on 26 March 2015 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

The team list is sorted by Tier, then Class, then Alphabetical Order.

 

This demands the Pershing to be repurchased! Can I get a loan of silver from someone? XD

 

My stats are only a little better than yours in my Pershing, and I was still a solo artist back then. I would say that leaves it up to bad teams. I'm hopefully going to be buying back my Pershing and T-44 soon so that I have some non Tier 8 Premiums to play. 

 

If you want to decypher iit, take a sample of games.. 20 - 50 at least, and track your stats through all of them while you're in a platoon. See if they match up with your stats overall in it. Of course improvement will show if they're better too, but the W/R will give you a good idea of if it was caused by you or by teams.

 

Oh. I could have sworn I saw a tier 8 heavy below the pershing, but I must have imagined that.

 

I would loan you some silver but I need it so I can spam gold rounds in the pershing. :)


 

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View PostrhymeswithN00bs, on 26 March 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:

 

Oh. I could have sworn I saw a tier 8 heavy below the pershing, but I must have imagined that.

 

I would loan you some silver but I need it so I can spam gold rounds in the pershing. :)

 

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View PostSTLxSTANG, on 26 March 2015 - 10:20 PM, said:

 

Pershing APCR is like a drug. It makes me feel soooogoooooodm

 

Yeah it's pretty great. I have to fund my pershing apcr addiction with my t20.

 

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