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STLxSTANG #21 Posted 27 March 2015 - 04:25 AM

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View PostrhymeswithN00bs, on 26 March 2015 - 10:22 PM, said:

 

Yeah it's pretty great. I have to fund my pershing apcr addiction with my t20.

 

I need to get a crew back in my pershing, they are in the m48 now. I used to fund my pershing apcr with freedom pershing apcr.  Lololol

 

 

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View PostrhymeswithN00bs, on 26 March 2015 - 11:16 PM, said:

 

Oh. I could have sworn I saw a tier 8 heavy below the pershing, but I must have imagined that.

 

I would loan you some silver but I need it so I can spam gold rounds in the pershing. :)

It is possible there is one. The Chaffee and Pz V/IV I know are not in the list how they should be. They are put above tier 6's.

View PostSTLxSTANG, on 26 March 2015 - 11:20 PM, said:

Pershing APCR is like a drug. It makes me feel soooogoooooodm

View PostrhymeswithN00bs, on 26 March 2015 - 11:22 PM, said:

Yeah it's pretty great. I have to fund my pershing apcr addiction with my t20.

View PostSTLxSTANG, on 26 March 2015 - 11:25 PM, said:

I need to get a crew back in my pershing, they are in the m48 now. I used to fund my pershing apcr with freedom pershing apcr.  Lololol

I feel like a Pershing APCR platoon is needed. A remedy for bad teams.. :trollface:


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I do fair in my pershing. I use it more as a spotting tank then anything else. Tier 8 is a hard tier to play at especially if your trying to play solo. For one, with all the premium match making tanks you get short changed on lobbies and when you see tens they are fully upgraded for the most part. Most tens start out full upgraded. Tier ten is also one of the most heavily populated tiers as of now so again your pershing is being used as filler. What happened to the tier 12 games? There is enough people at tier 10 to bring it back during high pop times.

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View PostrhymeswithN00bs, on 26 March 2015 - 05:02 PM, said:

Why is the expected w/r in the pershing only 51% and my own w/r is only 49%? I'm a capable pershing driver and I like to think I bring more good things to my team than bad, but no, apparently I am garbage and having me on your team means we're at a slight disadvantage. :( I don't understand how that could be. My overall w/r is 56%.

 

 

My theory is maybe the pershing is weighted too heavily in mm. Does anyone else agree or have a different theory?

 

Are there any other tanks that have low expected w/r? Couldn't that indicate that something was out of balance? (Maybe this is why the pershing got a pen buff)

 

 

Just proves that you need to platoon more.. I happen to have spots open up most times....

 

 


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The expected values are based on the population averages.   A tier VIII medium that is in a teir X match is almost completely dependent on the top tier tanks to win the game (as in, your not really going to carry X's against other X's).  So... how they go, you go.  Therefore, it would not surprise me if the win rate for most tier VIII tanks are closer to the 50% tanks than other tiers.  It is just a critical breaking point in the population of players and tiers.  

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Mine is good, but the Pershing to me is to average to stand out, I would rather take a sta-1 or Panther II.


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The sta1 is just a worse Pershing. ..

 

 

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View PostF4NA7IC, on 27 March 2015 - 10:44 AM, said:

It is possible there is one. The Chaffee and Pz V/IV I know are not in the list how they should be. They are put above tier 6's.

I feel like a Pershing APCR platoon is needed. A remedy for bad teams.. :trollface:

 

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View PostSTLxSTANG, on 27 March 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

 

Yes. Call us the Empire because all we're shooting is red lazers.

 


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There is no expected win rate for a tank there is only an average. Those may mean the same thing.

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I thought the pershing was underpowered in WW2 for the tanks it was supposed to be fighting and that the reality of that translated into our game.  Im not there yet the T20 still hates me ( bc of my lack in skillz ).  The wiki says MM treats it like a heavy, only thing that i can think of for its overall lower WR but 51% average across all players seems about right for any higher tier tank. Lower tiers average 48% of course all tgese numbers are for PC right? We dont have a gathered database for the xbox version.

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Also there are lots of new people to the game that want a tier 8 premium tank but dont have the commitment yet to get a more expensive tank. So they get the super Pershing. I personally ignore the whole expected tank win rate thing because there are more un experienced players than experienced ones. 

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I'd chalk it up to crappy teams as others have said. My W/L is around 55% but I have many tanks above and below that. remember it's an average which includes all tanks/battles.

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View PostAll Dat Magic, on 27 March 2015 - 03:41 PM, said:

There is no expected win rate for a tank there is only an average. Those may mean the same thing.

 

There is expected everything for everything. :P

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View PostF4NA7IC, on 27 March 2015 - 08:52 PM, said:

 

There is expected everything for everything. :P

 

Are you sure :)

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When bert is a still a thing everything is unexpected.

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View PostAll Dat Magic, on 27 March 2015 - 03:55 PM, said:

 

Are you sure :)

 

        "pershing":                   { title:"M26 Pershing",              id:5921,  tier:8,  nation:"US", type:"MT", frag:0.87, dmg:1115.35, spot:1.60, def:0.99, win:51.97 },

The pershing is expected to get...

.87 kills per game

1115 damage per game

1.6 detections per game

0.99 defense points per game

51.87% win rate.

 

=)

 


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View PostF4NA7IC, on 27 March 2015 - 08:58 PM, said:

 

        "pershing":                   { title:"M26 Pershing",              id:5921,  tier:8,  nation:"US", type:"MT", frag:0.87, dmg:1115.35, spot:1.60, def:0.99, win:51.97 },

The pershing is expected to get...

.87 kills per game

1115 damage per game

1.6 detections per game

0.99 defense points per game

51.87% win rate.

 

=)

 

 

Well Mr. Calculator you said EVERYTHING.

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Also thats called average not " Expected ".  say quickybaby was using a super pershing he is not expecting to get .87 kills per game. That is the AVERAGE of the community.

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