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Poll: Suicide watch♠ Penalty -250xp automatically. (223 members have cast votes)

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Suicide gets a xp penalty? Accidentally or not! Penalty..

  1. Yea (142 votes [63.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.68%

  2. Na (81 votes [36.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.32%

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killer etzi0 #21 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:33 PM

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View PostAeshaetter, on 06 July 2015 - 12:12 PM, said:

Nah, it'd be fine, because, while that would have sucked for you for that one game, I'm guessing that rarely happens to you?

 

yes it is rare, I do not like going down with out a fight....

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HARDCORE 2Omk #22 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:34 PM

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View PostCorporal Derpy, on 06 July 2015 - 01:25 PM, said:

 

They removed the Lucky medal though...

 

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HARDCORE 2Omk #23 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:38 PM

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View PostOneSpike, on 06 July 2015 - 01:32 PM, said:

I only voted no because it seems very hard to control.  What constitutes a suicide?  Driving directly into a lake and drowning less than 1 minute into a game? I've done that accidentally a couple of times trying to get to a spotting position (2x into water and 2x off a cliff).  Crashing your tank and dying when the last one on your team and being chased by OPFOR?  I've done that accidentally as well.

 

I don't dispute that suicides should be penalized (I guess), but I don't see how it could be accurately judged from a coding perspective.

 

I also feel that intentional AFKs are more of an issue than suicides.

 

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Edited by HARDCORE 20mk, 06 July 2015 - 06:39 PM.

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Morpheus02007 #24 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:38 PM

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-250xp is to little, nobody would care...

 

-1000xp, if not 1000xp in game...rest go off free xp....and -20% crew progress.


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Larios55 #25 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:39 PM

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View PostHARDCORE 20mk, on 06 July 2015 - 06:01 PM, said:

Been doing better lately and remembering old post about this. Mainly the last one from Gatz.

About almost always arty or lights or whatever. Suiciding themselves at the end when they are lossing.

 

This is getting old really fast. :sceptic:

 

 

So I propose a suicide watch. They suicide. Automatically -250 xp's...

Yea!!:justwait:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe a penalty system for suiciding needs to be implemented. (This is something that should have happened a long time ago) But 250 exp is no where near enough to stop the suiciding artys. (Especially if they already own a tier 8+ arty) To stop arty from suiciding almost every time they are the last ones alive, WG would need to impose a very steep silver fine. Something along the lines of 25,000 to possibly 50,000 silver. If they were to do that to every tank in the game that drowed/blew up their own tank, I believe the constant suicides would vanish overnight.


HARDCORE 2Omk #26 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:43 PM

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View PostMorpheus02007, on 06 July 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

-250xp is to little, nobody would care...

 

-1000xp, if not 1000xp in game...rest go off free xp....and -20% crew progress.

 

If I had my way Morpheus!! :justwait:

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Edited by HARDCORE 20mk, 06 July 2015 - 06:45 PM.

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USSWISCONSIN94 #27 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:45 PM

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View PostMorpheus02007, on 06 July 2015 - 01:38 PM, said:

-250xp is to little, nobody would care...

 

-1000xp, if not 1000xp in game...rest go off free xp....and -20% crew progress.

 

Seems a bit extreme.

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Who Mei #28 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:46 PM

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I voted yes, but regulating on what is considered a suicide and what is not would be difficult.

 

How do you differ from me accidently drowning or intentional drowning?


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Unassuming Noob #29 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:52 PM

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Should be silver and XP. And should escalate. Punish those scumbags.

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GHOSTpb #30 Posted 06 July 2015 - 06:56 PM

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You should be penalized for committing suicide even if it is an accident. It doesn't have to be a huge penalty but it should be something. Also if they gave players who contributed nothing no exp this would all but kill afkers. If you cant obtain a spot, assist damage, or damage why are you receiving exp in the first place? I just thought of this. Wot knows when you hit a tank even if it doesn't pin so even if you get a bounce you could still receive the exp. At least you shot at a tank.  

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TimMac PA #31 Posted 06 July 2015 - 07:00 PM

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I voted no. Can not be enforced properly. Unless it goes through a review process that involves a human being I will always be against any auto-penalty.



HARDCORE 2Omk #32 Posted 06 July 2015 - 07:14 PM

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View PostTimMac PA, on 06 July 2015 - 02:00 PM, said:

I voted no. Can not be enforced properly. Unless it goes through a review process that involves a human being I will always be against any auto-penalty.

 

Drowed or shotgun ur self. What's there to govern!?

 

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Edited by HARDCORE 20mk, 06 July 2015 - 07:14 PM.

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Corporal Derpy #33 Posted 06 July 2015 - 07:16 PM

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View PostHARDCORE 20mk, on 06 July 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

 

Drowed or shotgun ur self. Was there to govern!?

 

:amazed:

 

What is there to govern?

Whether what you did was intentional or not.

 

Did you get pushed into water by a friendly, but it did not decide that they had done so, did you take too wide a turn and go straight into the ditch, did that tiny rock somehow do enough damage that it destroyed your tank, oh oh even better, what if someone puts their barrel into yours while playing arty.

What if you fire at point blank at an enemy and the blast kills you.

That would class as you killing yourself, but quite clearly you did not, someone just stuck their barrel into yours while you were busy trying to support the team, and you'd get punished for it.


Edited by Corporal Derpy, 06 July 2015 - 07:17 PM.

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PRI Tempest #34 Posted 06 July 2015 - 07:34 PM

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Well if your going to punish suicides YOU need to punish heavies that are not at the front of the lines fighting. Punish everyone who do not play there tanks the way they should be played.



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View PostCorporal Derpy, on 06 July 2015 - 02:16 PM, said:

 

What is there to govern?

Whether what you did was intentional or not.

 

Did you get pushed into water by a friendly, but it did not decide that they had done so, did you take too wide a turn and go straight into the ditch, did that tiny rock somehow do enough damage that it destroyed your tank, oh oh even better, what if someone puts their barrel into yours while playing arty.

What if you fire at point blank at an enemy and the blast kills you.

That would class as you killing yourself, but quite clearly you did not, someone just stuck their barrel into yours while you were busy trying to support the team, and you'd get punished for it.

 

Trolls are alot less then suicide for one. Don't matter if accidentally or not and implemented after the troll report button is in too...

 

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View PostPRI Tempest, on 06 July 2015 - 02:34 PM, said:

Well if your going to punish suicides YOU need to punish heavies that are not at the front of the lines fighting. Punish everyone who do not play there tanks the way they should be played.

 

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Edited by HARDCORE 20mk, 06 July 2015 - 07:48 PM.

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View PostUSSWISCONSIN94, on 06 July 2015 - 07:45 PM, said:

 

Seems a bit extreme.

 

We need extreme measures, otherwise nothing will change.
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View PostMorpheus02007, on 06 July 2015 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

We need extreme measures, otherwise nothing will change.

 

Yup!♠♠

 

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I guess this might seem like a cool idea, but let's go back over what WGA has told us, again and again:  they are only interested in "punishing" suicides if they can find a method that does not punish those who make mistakes.  Okay, don't bother debating that point*.  Instead, try to explain how your suggested method to punish suiciders would avoid penalty for those making mistakes. 

 

The original posting doesn't meet WGA's criteria and so it's a dead-letter, right there.  There has to be some way that makes simple sense, though, right? 

 

*I disagree with WGA's position, but let's focus on the task at hand.



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View PostHARDCORE 20mk, on 06 July 2015 - 07:39 PM, said:

 

Trolls are alot less then suicide for one. Don't matter if accidentally or not and implemented after the troll report button is in too...

 

Yeahhhh! Or meow too. 

 

So effectively because you make a mistake, splash damage kills you when you fire at point blank at a Medium perhaps rushing you and the splash kills you, or someone on your team decides they want to troll you, you would be punished for it, moreso than just having to pay the repair costs of the tank?

Like if we were to implement it with Morpheus's, you'd lose any XP you made that match perhaps, lose out on Free XP, and your Crew would go down from whatever % they are on, because someone decided to put their barrel into yours, you splashed yourself, or you took a corner too fast.

 

Yeah no that's a bad system.


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